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(05-02-2013 11:08 PM)jo.avalyn Wrote: [ -> ]OMG i totally need archangel michael. whole board green without any effort haha. yeah but its kinda hard to get skill ups for astaroth right... i got 2 of her and i didint even skill up.. damn.

hmm...if you have Astaroth that means you are playing Japan account. Didn't you play the previous collaboration 神羅万象チョコ Dungeon? There's tons of カグヤ to evolved into 狂華咲乱 花媛香具耶 [Image: v78cwl.jpg]
One of my Red friendlist left Red and went Demon Counter with Astaroth, he maxed out skill already @@

(05-03-2013 02:55 AM)Zera Wrote: [ -> ]So Green is now tied with my Mono Dark Team as far as the subs.

Green:

Leaders - HD Artemis lvl 50 (primarily run her but once I get Parv up to snuff I think she will be the leader), Parvati lvl 35, Freyja lvl 34

Subs
Parv
Freyja
Cu Chu lvl 23
ADK lvl 48

Beast of a team, I just need to get them so levels. Parv will never be removed from the team along with Cu, and ADK. Freyja is the only one I see being removed for anything that would require Susano. Is my line of thinking correct or do you see flawed logic here? I also did land a Green Odin but to me he has no spot in my setup outside of stats.

Your team is very good with the line up, and you got Artemis/Freyja/Parvati all 3! You can swap all 3 into leader depends on who's on your friendlist. Having Freyja in sub is more of a boss stage burst, Susano is the perfect defensive sub (doubt you will ever try get Asgard if you have Susano haha). As for Odin, "my opinion" is that ignore that little thing till your team is evolved and at decent level, he's a stats-stick.
P.S. unless you don't have a team for Hara-is, Odin+Drawn Joker and your wood team at decent level can tackle it down without issue.

(05-03-2013 03:30 AM)david Wrote: [ -> ]Alright Niteblooded, help me out here. I am SOLID on mono-red but I am struggling with my mono green team. I will list what I have and what I THINK I should be running then you can just set me straight.

So here are the monsters in my box....

Freyja
Sylph, the Wind Elemental
Odin
Ceres
Highlander
Susano
ADK
GED
Toytops
Earth Golem

Most of these guys are under leveled because I have focused more on Red and Dark. I am almost up to the Techs with all wood/no wood orbs. So I guess it's time to level up a mono green team. With what I have here is what I was thinking.....

Lead - Freyja
Highlander (need to level and evo)
ADK
Susano (need to level and evo)
GED? (lost on this spot, might shoot for Lagavulin this week as a possability)
Friend - Hunting Deity Artemis

Orb changers will be key since there will be no wood orbs. This line up gives me three. And Susano for when shit hits the fan.

What are your guys thoughts on this???

Hey David, mind if I add you to friendlist Big Grin, evolving my Artemis after Friday! Big Grin

"My opinion" for your line is stay the same, but kick out GED and put in Ceres. They both have -50% wood, but Ceres can evolved into Wood+light or Wood+Dark (future 12.5x Satan-team vital sub, only she has active-heal in demon-type). I don't see the point of raising any ripper dragon if you have the same color Greek God.
Hey Johnny, do you mind explaining what you mean by a Hera-Is team? I have Odin and an awesome Green team. What is the build to zero stone her?
(05-03-2013 06:34 AM)Filthy Monkey Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-01-2013 02:09 PM)Niteblooded Wrote: [ -> ]Not sure why Parvati becomes white in her evolved form. Seems kinda wrong to me lol. Not sure why she is gray either. Oh well, I don't design this game, I just play it.
There is actually some good mythological basis for her skin color change. Especially given the name change to "Golden Goddess". Depending on the texts you go by, Parvati did cast off her dark skin after being spurned by Shiva, and became her light skinned version, Gauri.

According to wikipedia "The Shastras (sanctioned works of religious doctrine) attribute the golden colour of goddess Gauri’s skin and ornaments to the story of Parvati casting off her unwanted dark complexion after Shiva teased her, but the cult of Gauri tells a different story. Gauri is in essence a fertility Goddess, and is venerated as a corn mother which would seem to suggest that she owes her colouring to the hues of ripening grain, for which she is propitiated."

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(05-02-2013 05:18 PM)JohnnyC Wrote: [ -> ]Here are the stats: (I just skip right to the Evolved form Tongue)
[Image: 6hiygx.jpg]
予見の魔神将・アスタロト (Astaroth - wood demon)
lv1 HP: 1000 atk: 720 Rcv: 376
lv Max HP: 2500 Atk: 1180 Rcv: 564
Leader Skill - Demon type 2x HP+RCV (ya she's your demon Noel Dragon XD)
Active (20 turns, max lvl 10 turns) - Within 5 Turns, when you received damage, counter with wood damage. (perm counter!!! can be achieved if leader+friend all both max skilled)
http://pd.appbank.net/m634, -----> Evolved - http://pd.appbank.net/m635
Link if you wanna see her picutre ^

Thanks for the information! I definitely want Archangel Michael now. Not really sure what to make of Astaroth to be honest. Guess its because I would like more information on her skill. So if you get hit for 10k damage, does she that monster back for 10k back? Is the damage amplified? Does it hit all enemies or just the one you are targeting or the one that hit you?

Without understanding how her skill works I can't say I could write anything meaningful about her in the guide.


(05-02-2013 11:58 PM)bangbang Wrote: [ -> ]Sort of a rate my team post slash who should I start when I go mono green. What dungeons is this team uniquely able to beat that I may struggle with using other teams. If I decided to invest in Monogreen, who is my leveling order / what are my most useful teams?

Lead: Flowerdragon Gaia Prachys (58)
Potential Subs:
Ancient Dragon Knight (52)
Wood Skydragon Horai (23)
Graviton Earth Dragon (32)
Susano (47)
Susano (40)
Highlander (Max)
Highlander (39)
Sylph (28)
Dryad (Max)
Earth Guardian (43)
Toyceratops (1)

I'm not sure there is really any dungeon Mono-Green can solo take that others cannot except for the Tower of Windy Woods technical dungeon. The Ancient Wood Dragon stupid easy even on legendary, probably harder for Red and Blue. If you were to form Mono-Green, this is the team I would form:

Lead: FGP
Subs: ADK, Highlander, Susano, GED

Maybe farm a second ADK for this Monday but the GED isn't too bad really. He doesn't get enough love for what he provides (cheap stats and decent ability).


(05-03-2013 02:55 AM)Zera Wrote: [ -> ]So Green is now tied with my Mono Dark Team as far as the subs.

Green:

Leaders - HD Artemis lvl 50 (primarily run her but once I get Parv up to snuff I think she will be the leader), Parvati lvl 35, Freyja lvl 34

Subs
Parv
Freyja
Cu Chu lvl 23
ADK lvl 48

Beast of a team, I just need to get them so levels. Parv will never be removed from the team along with Cu, and ADK. Freyja is the only one I see being removed for anything that would require Susano. Is my line of thinking correct or do you see flawed logic here? I also did land a Green Odin but to me he has no spot in my setup outside of stats.

I don't think the Darkies can tie us. Not to mention that is an extremely solid Mono-Green Team. Your logic is sound too. Freyja is awesome for burning bosses down (as previously mentioned) and Susano is great for when you need to take some hits. And I agree with both you and Johnny on Odin. For you the only reason to work on Odin would be if you want to run an Odin/Ama Team.


(05-03-2013 03:29 AM)opiuman Wrote: [ -> ]I managed to score a Susano yesterday even though I really wanted a Neptune. Susano seems better for HP and RCV and worse for ATK when compared with Sasuke. I think I'll still stick with Sasuke sub since I already have a ton of RCV. Parvati isn't an option just yet since I don't have her.

Just don't neglect Susano. A defensive sub is a VERY NICE thing to have.


(05-03-2013 03:30 AM)david Wrote: [ -> ]Alright Niteblooded, help me out here. I am SOLID on mono-red but I am struggling with my mono green team. I will list what I have and what I THINK I should be running then you can just set me straight.

Lead - Freyja
Highlander (need to level and evo)
ADK
Susano (need to level and evo)
GED? (lost on this spot, might shoot for Lagavulin this week as a possability)
Friend - Hunting Deity Artemis

Orb changers will be key since there will be no wood orbs. This line up gives me three. And Susano for when shit hits the fan.

What are your guys thoughts on this???

I gotta agree with Johnny and Esper, I prefer Ceres over GED. Though a good point was brought up on the armor break for the cactus.


(05-03-2013 06:34 AM)Filthy Monkey Wrote: [ -> ]There is actually some good mythological basis for her skin color change. Especially given the name change to "Golden Goddess". Depending on the texts you go by, Parvati did cast off her dark skin after being spurned by Shiva, and became her light skinned version, Gauri.

According to wikipedia "The Shastras (sanctioned works of religious doctrine) attribute the golden colour of goddess Gauri’s skin and ornaments to the story of Parvati casting off her unwanted dark complexion after Shiva teased her, but the cult of Gauri tells a different story. Gauri is in essence a fertility Goddess, and is venerated as a corn mother which would seem to suggest that she owes her colouring to the hues of ripening grain, for which she is propitiated."

Ahh... so there is mythology behind that decision. Found that interesting, thanks. Big Grin


(05-03-2013 11:28 AM)Marty Wrote: [ -> ][Image: the_more_you_know2.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AK...lEydPBc%3D]

Picture didn't come through. Guessing its a joke though based on the URL.
aww the pic doesn't show? it shows for me.

Its the "The More You Know" Rainbow Star thingy that used to show on tv when I was a kid.
(05-03-2013 09:05 AM)Kiyo Wrote: [ -> ]Hey Johnny, do you mind explaining what you mean by a Hera-Is team? I have Odin and an awesome Green team. What is the build to zero stone her?

@Kiyo, this guide does not belong to me, it's from Bahamut Forum

Key point: HP>10290, RCV at 2505, you need at least 6 combo with 3 heart orbs, or 4 combo with 4 heart orbs (when hera-is pounding you with skill 24/7)
It's a full defensive team to grind down Hera-is, that person used:
Leader: Drawn Joker (can sub with Abyss Neptune if you are confident on healing yourself back.
Team:
1. Rainbow Keeper (some prefer Sylph)
2. Siren max skill
3. Echidna (may sub your Parvati in, not sure if it's good idea or not though, since US version has nothing to skill up Parvati)
4. Awakened Hera (or any other Gravity monster you got)
Friend: Awakened Odin (prefer highest level you can find)

Before we even begin, remember this is full defensive team, the fight will be VERY VERY LONG!!! And constantly doing at least 5~6 combo.
Floor 5, that dragon's 5000 def is a blockade for you, you just focus on healing back up full (or dead in 1 hit) and just Hera/Odin skill to kill him.
Floor 6, start off with RK's -50% dmg (this is where some ppl prefer using Sylph for 100% survive rate), because Hera-Is is about to block 5 of your team, ouch >_>. If you use RK, make sure you have heart orbs saved up so you can survive at least 3 turns. After that, you can focus on surviving and clear the orbs, and start nuking with Gravity/Odin's spear (don't nuke on turn 1, they said Hera-is will tend be nice and normal atk you if you didn't touch her "yet", a myth like Goemon).

It takes "hours"..........good luck Tongue

(05-03-2013 01:20 PM)Niteblooded Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-02-2013 05:18 PM)JohnnyC Wrote: [ -> ]Here are the stats: (I just skip right to the Evolved form Tongue)
[Image: 6hiygx.jpg]
予見の魔神将・アスタロト (Astaroth - wood demon)
lv1 HP: 1000 atk: 720 Rcv: 376
lv Max HP: 2500 Atk: 1180 Rcv: 564
Leader Skill - Demon type 2x HP+RCV (ya she's your demon Noel Dragon XD)
Active (20 turns, max lvl 10 turns) - Within 5 Turns, when you received damage, counter with wood damage. (perm counter!!! can be achieved if leader+friend all both max skilled)
http://pd.appbank.net/m634, -----> Evolved - http://pd.appbank.net/m635
Link if you wanna see her picutre ^

Thanks for the information! I definitely want Archangel Michael now. Not really sure what to make of Astaroth to be honest. Guess its because I would like more information on her skill. So if you get hit for 10k damage, does she that monster back for 10k back? Is the damage amplified? Does it hit all enemies or just the one you are targeting or the one that hit you?

Without understanding how her skill works I can't say I could write anything meaningful about her in the guide.

@Niteblood, here you go about the that counter skill 樹の呪い and what it does.
http://www18.atwiki.jp/pazdra/pages/48.h...A%E3%81%84
受けたダメージの3倍を発生源に与える - GameOver直前に反撃可能
Counter the source 3x the damage was received - won't work if you GameOver Big Grin haha
Out of all 5 counter Demons, only this girl has 2x hp+rcv for demon type. Some players even conjunction with Lucifer's 2x hp+rcv for Dark.
Here's a link for full list of currently Demon-Type in Japanese version:
http://pd.appbank.net/evil (they got avatars, not just words Big Grin)

A typical Line up I saw was:
Astaroth 2x
Hera or Hera-is (Hera-is has higher stats on hp+rcv while Hera has more atk)
any of the Greek God going xxx+Dark (Neptune, Ceres are awesome to have)
Drawn Joker (your favorite dark/demon heart maker lol)
Loki/Vampire Lord are very debatable, they are offensive sub (if you have no Neptune, bring a Lilith XD)

Ok, back to Echidna Dungeon grind, my 2nd Echidna is at lv4!!! Need 2 more skills to max >_>, burning my free stones at this is more worth it then on Rare Egg lol. And I do need 2 max skill Echidna XD, I have no Horus/Freyr Undecided
Thanks Johnny! Why are all these end game dungeons so exhausting? They take forever to complete. Gotta find a quicker way to defeat her.
Got my Artemis evolved into HD Artemis Big Grin, that pesky Dub-Emelit!!!!! 3 runs end up with 1 Dub-Emelit, and 4 Dub-Mythlit!!!! >_> what the hell....Undecided Orz, Hope my luck with Dub-Emelit get better later, So I can evolve my whole line Big Grin!

(05-04-2013 04:01 AM)Kiyo Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks Johnny! Why are all these end game dungeons so exhausting? They take forever to complete. Gotta find a quicker way to defeat her.

@kiyo, there's a reason why Goemon/Ra/Horus/Zeus are that much wanted by the community. They just bust down hard descend if you are familiar and good with them Wink (I have none of them lol, still working on it)

Before I go on about Lucifer, it's not a debate I wanna start, basically stating the fact Smile
(my RL friend is non-iAP and he's enjoying it, he rerolled during Angel/Demon since he had luck on getting God before, but they are all over the colors, lol, 5 Gods within 7 pulls but in 5 colors. He was torn apart badly Undecided. In the end, he's happy with a typical Long Grind, since it allow him to tackle Hell/Super Hell level without too much brain cell dying, his 2nd pull was Vritra =___=)

As for the infamous Lucifer-team, he's still the same! Except he makes your 4x hp+rcv team grind way faster (ya his 300k mega cannon Cool but the descend will still take you 30+ mins AT LEASTSleepy typical is 45+ mins Undecided). You are still required to learn how to combo well, and survive like every other double Noel team. It's just RK made this team progress much faster than other (decent stats, no need to level!!!), and he can require Hera for Gravitation.

Hell level is relative easy once you have the team+level, Super Hell require your own skill to tackle it down and some luck (gotta love monster seal from some boss, pff). The key is how you juggle RK (once have high level team, RK isn't used as much)/Gravitation/Vritra or Rainbow Crystal/Moonlight Carbuncle to allow you 1 turn KO the boss, while survive all other floors to reach the boss of course Big Grin

Sorry for going off topic in Mono-Green >_> sorry, not trying to pull people to Dark, it's my RL friend's situation was too hiralious, lol. Beside, his little sister was screaming happy when she got the previous account, she couldn't care less about descend but just having cute Gods.
Everyone has their own happiness Wink!!!!
Looks like I'll be trying to get a Lucifer then. Hope they hold off on Hera-Is and Goemon until after that Angels & Demons God Fest! 30 mins is fine. I've probably spent more time grinding for Red Whiskey Dragon with no drop over and over. I'd just like a fast way to get through descends because they are limited time only. Thanks for all the advice!
(05-04-2013 06:40 AM)Kiyo Wrote: [ -> ]Looks like I'll be trying to get a Lucifer then. Hope they hold off on Hera-Is and Goemon until after that Angels & Demons God Fest! 30 mins is fine. I've probably spent more time grinding for Red Whiskey Dragon with no drop over and over. I'd just like a fast way to get through descends because they are limited time only. Thanks for all the advice!

@Kiyo, Lucifer is a decent alternative to have to have a safe run at Hell-level descend. Also, based on your signature, I wouldn't recommend a reroll, you have invested way too much time and that many Gods. And you got 2 Hades :O!

On a side note, you have Horus in signature. Why not build a formidable Horus team? They are crazy hot and good. Ra vs Horus, Horus is less dependent on luck and more on how you move your orbs around Big Grin

P.S. anyone who has gotten good with Horus/Zeus, they will never go back to Lucifer, since the time you spend is too far apart XD
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