One row + maximizing rest combos on a 7x6 board

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  1. StarDragon12

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    I was having a bit of fun with Tifa in the tournament and got myself placed above 10% with a Leilan x Tifa pairing @ 117.5k, and I kinda wanna go for the crown clear with Leilan for bragging rights [Suzaku <3]

    I was wondering how you guys would go about brute forcing a 7x6 board tricolor (or even a regular board) with a 7 match of fire somewhere to maximize combos.

    Something like this?
    :fire::fire::fire::light::light::light::light:
    :earth::earth::earth::fire::fire::fire::fire:
    :light::light::light::earth::earth::earth::earth:
    :earth::earth::earth::fire::fire::fire::fire:
    :light::light::light::earth::earth::earth::earth:
    :fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:
     
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    Goal is max combo count? Kinda depends on your orb count distribution.

    But in a perfect world, sneak in a spare vertical in the middle rows.

    :fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:
    :earth::earth::earth::light::light::light::light:
    :light::light::light::earth::earth::earth::fire:
    :fire::fire::fire::light::light::light::fire:
    :light::light::light::earth::earth::earth::fire:
    :fire::fire::fire::fire::light::light::light:

    If goal is max damage it's probably better for 2x rows+TPA instead of row+tpa+2combo
     
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    I'm blowing a tricolor a turn on a 7x6 board. I can hit max damage pretty easily on yamat, but looks like it. Just looking for an optimal brute force board thats better than the one I currently am doing (aka 3 + 4 per row)
     
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    There is no way that full solve is better than a 1.5 second semi-controlled swipe wiggle, like a frenetic illegible signature path across the board, snagging 5-6 combos blinding fast and hoping for some skyfall luck.

    If you aren't finishing with like, 200+ seconds on the clock, I doubt it's a crown contender.

    The amount of time to fuss around with a full 9-10+ combo solve seems a no go.
     
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    Ideally, you hit 12+ combos from skyfall => avg being 12+ => score ~ 60k, -5k from predra nuking, leaves you 55k.
    To get crown, I'm going to put that thresh at 126k. 126k - 55k = 71k / 500 points per second = 142s

    60s to make combos in comparison to a swipe team (200s), across 6 rounds.

    Sorry, but I'm very close to crowning atm; 123k with Tifa x Leilan.

    Edit: 500 points per second left on clock, 5k per combo average, and -5k per skill defeat. Edit, current thresh is at 126k, fixed math to reflect.
     
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    Why are you lasering when poison avoids the -5k? Even with the extra animation second/swipe you would be up net 2-3k, would you not...?

    Also, doesn't laser give you 0 combo for that floor and mean to average 12 you need 14 combo on the other six floors...
     
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    Laser / Nuke skips the floor.

    But let's do math real fast. I do recall people saying that laser > poison with high combo avg.

    12(6)/6 vs (12(6) + 0) / 7
    12 vs 10.3
    you lose out on so much if you poison swipe, a near 1.7 combo avg. Even if you 1c the poison, you lose out on time and combo avg only goes up by .1-.2

    If you full combo the board, you will most likely lose out on 10+s because of comboing, damage + poison animations, which results in a -5k points anyways.

    So, laser is more consistent if you have a really high combo.
     
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    Tifa works on red? #mindblown

    Never thought of building a red team with Tifa... maybe pair with Cao
     
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    Yes. And 6 red or 6 light will get you 2x RCV. She saved my Xiu Min team and stalling is so easy now.
     

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