ღ [Team Building] Pandora, Goddess of the Bleak Night ღ

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  1. Certain Victory

    Certain Victory Member

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    Pandora|Ronia|Hanzo|Vamp|Beelzebub|Pandora for Kog.
    Tiamat: Tank hit, store darks, use pandora active if necessary. EZ
    CDD: Use Pandora + Vamp, 2 rows with 16x usually kills him.
    Zeus: The ol' Ronia+Hanzo+Orb Enhance OHKO.

    Using vamp instead of persephone b/c double 5 turn orb changers makes Pando teams a lot more reliable.

    You really want to get a orb enhancer who has dark row enhance. D.meta, DA Lucifer, or Cerberus all work. Using Beelzebub instead of corpse wyrm b/c of high attack. If you don't meet the HP requirement to tank Tiamat, you can sub in corpse wyrm for beelzebub.

    As for descends, it's the same lineup for the most part. Replace Ronia with CDK if descend is 4-5 waves and you can't stall. (You'll lose out on a precious row enhance, which your team is already lacking in, but you should be fine for the most part... I think).
     
  2. kaze@d2jsp

    kaze@d2jsp Active Member

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    cool, ill give that a try
    should i swap out beezle for a 2 row (graper dragon/tiamat) or a dumpty(1 row& 1.5x dmg enhance) for zeus maybe that will cover the dps? i am just contemplating here because beezle is like level 5 unevo lol.
     
  3. Certain Victory

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    That depends on how leveled your team is and your total dark attack. If I were to replace beelzebub I would probably put in the dumpty. You'll just have to test out your damage output to see if you can ohko Zeus though. Try out the ronia + hanzo + dumpty in endless (or just calculate the damage).
     
  4. kaze@d2jsp

    kaze@d2jsp Active Member

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    oo a little rough
    3.1 ish /w 4 combos
    but hanzo & dumpty not leveled and not awoken
    maybe that should cover the rest
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  5. Certain Victory

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    You're hitting around 1,750,000 damage with just the full board + dumpty (this is excluding the 3 other combos). You need around 2,650,000 dark damage to kill Zeus. With dumpty and hanzo awoken you'll around hit around 2,100,000 with those extra 2 row enhances. Heavily invest exp in your Hanzo to get his attack around 1.4k+ and uvo him and that ~should~ make up the 550,000 damage (I didn't actually calculate this part, this is just my intuition).
     
  6. Certain Victory

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    Does anyone have any team builds/strats for Friday Dungeon mythical? What do I do on Floor 2 if they're synced at 2 turn attack timers?

    Edit: Sorry for the double post, above post is completely unrelated and I wanted my question to stand out a bit more. :p
     
  7. oGambit

    oGambit Well-Known Member

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    Bring Lilith. Your team would consist of Lilith ronia dmeta and hanzo. If your Lilith is max skilled it should be up in four turns meaning you only need to stall for two or three on the first floor. So if you were to match one 5 orb combo dark and one 3 orb dark you could kill everything except the mythlits and then just hope they keep trying to bind dmeta. Then Lilith round two mass attacks on round 3 Lilith the tama when she is back up. Ronia hanzo dmeta round 4. Or if you want a big number for dmeta you could save Lilith and kill the tama with dark orbs since Lilith gives 1.5x to attackers but that's unnecessary.

    I haven't tried this team out ever but in theory it should work.
     
  8. vicentetx

    vicentetx So many skill-ups, so little time.

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    @ Certain Victory

    Running Twinlits with a Pandora team should be very possible, but given your options I am unsure why you wouldn't just run DMeta. A dmeta/hanzo/lilith/[Lilith /echinda]/[sonia/perse/ares] shreds Twinlits in 1-2 minutes. You have fewer skill boosts on Pandora teams, and Pandora is a little more limited on 1F I think because you can't do a 1x6 match if you do, you will almost certainly wipe the floor and that will be that. On the other hand, a 1x5 alone may not ko the rgb lits, which will also cause issues. Pandora also can't field two poisoners/delays.

    Anyway - I would love to know why you want to run Pandora when you have a DMeta.
     
  9. BigBlueFish

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    Build from PADX:
    Pandora - Hanzo - CDKV - D/D Lilith - DA Lucifer - Pandora
    Use Hazno/CDKV whenever you need dark orbs
    Floor 1 - sweep with 6 dark orbs
    Floor 2 - clear 5 dark orbs for 2 turns
    Floor 3 - kill tamadra first, set up board by clearing blue and heals, poison dubs
    Floor 4 - All skills OHKO
     
  10. Zante

    Zante Generally Indecisive

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    Lillith and Luci have to be skilled :c
     
  11. BigBlueFish

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    As well as Hanzo and CDKV. I just kinda assumed max level/awoken/skill, my bad.
     
  12. Certain Victory

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    Even though I have a D.meta team I never actually use it for anything. It's just that I'm not too confident with maintaining the right hp at all times. But if you say D.meta's easier for twinlits I'll use her instead. :eek:

    According to your team build I have this so far:
    D.Meta/Hanzo/Lilith/Echidna/[Ronia/Ares]

    One thing to note though: Lilith isn't skilled up at all, and also not uvo'd.

    A couple questions: Do I have to max-skill/uvo her before running the dungeon? (I don't have any Angelits atm) Also what waves do I use Lilith and Echidna on? And what exactly do I do on wave 1?

    Ah I see. Unfortunately I don't have a max skill Lilith yet. Hopefully I'll have her done by the end of Poring tower. :)
     
  13. DemonLos

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    @ certain victory Fri dungeon is really easy with DMeta once you figure out the first floor. Here's a vid to show you the basic strat.

    [video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hGzMPZUHqo[/video]

    Fri will be much more viable for Pandora once we can max skill her ;)

    [video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxt723C_nP4[/video]
     
  14. Divine

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    please add me. 367,562,289

    Mains leads are dark meta, Pandora, and gaia

    Just started to make a team leaned towards pandora. Missing that ronia though..:(
     
  15. vicentetx

    vicentetx So many skill-ups, so little time.

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    @ certain victory

    You don't need a max skill or uevoed Lilith. In fact, going D/L Lilith can be deadly in that team because the rainbow lits will bind her into oblivion trying to bind the DMetas. Max skilling makes it easier because you have less stalling on 1F. From my perspective, between Ares and Sonia, pick the one with the lowest CD. But ROnia is simpler as long as you can get her up.

    I wrote up a post on Twinlits with DMEta and Perse here. That strategy works the same with Ares, but instead of clearing green and blue along the way, you clear light and green. If you are using ROnia, you don't have to worry about clearing any particular color orbs before the boss floor.

    And if, as it sounds like you are, you are using Echinda instead of a second lilith, the strategy is to delay on 3F, ping the dubs down, and then kill the tama when ready, ensuring that no one important is bound when you exit to the boss floor. If using Ares, you can clear the off colors at that point as well. The Echinda option can also help make sure you have enough turns to get a longer CD ROnia up before the boss level. I tend to like dual lilith builds because then I don't have to ping anyone or endure pure smile (C: Note also that the number of turns Sonia can be bound is not that important if doing the echinda build, cause you can just stall them out on the Tama if needed.

    If you wanted to run a Pandora team, I would at least try a Pandora / DMEta / Hanzo / Echnida / Sonia team. On 1F, I would stall till the Pandoras were 2 turns from being up, and then on 2F I would break their defense with Pandora / Hanzo / DMEta. On 3F, delay them and ping down the dubs. Stall on the Tama till all skills are up again. KO the Tama and then Sonia / Hanzo / DMEta 4F for the win. That might actually be safer than bringing an unskilled Lilith, since Pandora's base CD is 13 while Liliths is 15. 1F is the most danger, so minimizing time there is key. I have not tried that team though, just FYI.

    EDIT: on that Pandora team, I just realized that your DMeta is likely unskilled as well. In which case you are going to have to stall till she is two turns from being up before exiting 1F.
     
  16. Certain Victory

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    Ah I see, thanks for the in-depth guide! I'll try twinlits this friday and post my results. :)

    Edit: JK, my D.meta team doesn't have enough HP to tank the preemptives. I'll try running my Pandora team instead.
     
  17. OrangePeelPanda

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    how key is hanzo to pandora teams? I have almost every other sub possible, max skill vamp and cdk seems to be enough, with byakko's uevo around the corner, and I have a max level/max awoken Dtron, and d/d batman, not sure if hanzbro is THAT important or not...
     
  18. oGambit

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    Hanzo is important for the red to dark alone. If you have a ronia it creates a full board if you have byakko it takes the reds produced and makes them dark, thus making byakkos active a lot more potent.

    However, you can get by without one. The main key is two five turn orb changers. Your team would look something like vamp, cdkv, dtron, byakko that would be 6 rows 5 skill boosts (I think). So definitely doable
     
  19. Toasted_Rofls

    Toasted_Rofls Fire-N-Stuff

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    So I've decided I need to start farming KoG for ranks. I have a Pandora and some useful subs, which I will list below. Do you think I could make a team that can reliable blow up Zeus and his Starlight Sanctuary pals?

    Most of these are not evolved and/or leveled very high, with the exception of Loki, Vamp, and Satan.

    -Pandora (obviously)
    -Loki
    -Vamp
    -Persephone
    -Cerberus
    -Tiamat
    -Seraph Of Derp, Lolcifer
    -Drawn Joker
    -Hera
    -CDK
    -Satan (Maybe?)
    -Chaos Devil Dragon
    -An extra Vamp (that I intend to turn into W/D eventually)
    -Another extra Vamp (that I'm saving for low cost dungeons)

    I'm thinking Pandora/Vamp/Loki/Persephone/Cerberus/Tiamat/Pandora could work, but it would have crappy sustain do to low-ish HP and recover. That's seven dark rows, four orb changers, a Norse enhance, and a dark orb enhance. Tiamat kinda has mediocre stats though without his rare evo ult which I can't make just yet (still building a Tri-Fruits team), and Cerberus has really bad stats, and since I can't make his ult evo yet either, I'm stuck with a non-ult one, which has even worse stats.

    There are three sub-bosses in KoG, and Loki's active works for three turns, so that does give me a 1.5 damage boost for murdering my way through the bosses, which should make it a bit easier. Is their hope for me to farm KoG? I'd really appreciate any help or ideas here.
     
  20. kaze@d2jsp

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    i just started starlight w/ pand team
    u want either 5 row enhance & a 90% board w/ 1-2 combo to boot with 1.5
    otherwise 5 row & orb hance
    it is retrded right now because my full board /w 5 row dont 1 shot zeus but with with 1 combo i 1 shot him
    lol
    my team is pretty much high level too
    u lack a hanzo which could come back n bite you
    hanzo is like 70% of a pand team imo
     

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