Best places to farm for + in 10x +egg rate in Descended Dungeons

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  1. Eqlipse

    Eqlipse Well-Known Member

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    The chart below will attempt to give information on how many +eggs each Descended Dungeon gives per run.

    Although only a few dungeons are worth farming for +eggs since they are vastly more efficient than the others, this is a nice way to lookup a dungeon's +egg drop rate if you are, say, farming it for skillups.

    Please note that 10x Descends does not appear to apply to coop descends...yet (correct me if I am wrong).

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    dungeons have the best +eggs per stamina.
    Italicized dungeons have the best +eggs per hour.

    Regular Descendeds:

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    Descended# potential drops*# average drops (estimate)*Descended# potential drops*# average drops (estimate)*
    Valkyrie44Goemon44
    Hera-Is63-4Satan53
    Zeus-Dios52Hera-Ur32
    Athena42Takeminakata33
    Beelzebub21Izanami32
    Heracles43Beorc33
    Sowilo95-6Vulcan72
    Thoth & Sopdet31Mephistopheles63
    Mercury74Zhao Yun44
    Grimoires54Diagoldos63
    Sonia Gran31Sphinx52
    Aamir75Rejeronte33
    Journey to the West62-3(?)Medjedra2**1
    Zeus & Hera21Jord4?
    Deus Ex Machina7~5Surtr]32
    Hel54
    Restricted/Special Descendeds: 2-3 [/td]
    Descended# potential drops*# average drops (estimate)*Descended# potential drops*# average drops (estimate)*
    Draggie53 Dragon Zombie22
    Sandalphon32 Wadatsumi44
    Noah52 Zhang Fei54
    Kanetsugu76 *** Dark Knight53
    Kaguyahime43 Zhou Yu42***
    Zaerog Infinity42 Nordis53
    Scarlet53 Indigo42
    Guan Yinping6****5***Tengu54 ***
    Volsungr5
    Yamatsumi65
    Miscellaneous
    Descended# potential drops*# average drops (estimate)*Descended# potential drops*# average drops (estimate)*
    PAD Z Collab64Descended Carnival x2 drop55
    * Floors that only drop evo or enhance materials are not counted, as they cannot drop with a +. Avg. drop rate estimate does not factor in special 1.5x or 2x drop events in coin dungeons.
    ** Ra Tamadra can drop with a + but the Mystic Masks that appear on his floor cannot. The floor where this happens is not counted.
    ***Manekimewdra will spawn on one floor along with 2 other monsters that can drop +..
    ****If Mini Zhao Yun invades here (instead of B/G Karin) he can drop with a +, also Manekimewdra spawns here 2 other mobs, see ***
    TL;DR Sowilo, Kanetsugu, Deus Ex Machina, Guan Yinping, Aamir, and Descended Carnival (only on 2x droprate) give out the best +/stamina, all roughly 5-6 drops per run. tr]
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    Deus Ex MachinaSlowest and hardest descend, gives out a lot of +eggs and Rank XP. I'm not sure on the exact figure but I believe it gives around the same +/run as Sowilo, maybe slightly better.
    Sowiloslow 10-battle grind, but a lot easier than Deus Ex Machina. Only 3+ are technically guaranteed but the average is roughly 5.33+ on 1x drop.
    KanetsuguFairly quick compared to Sowilo and pays out around the same +/stamina, gives respectable but slightly less XP than Sowilo. All Att. Needed may be troublesome for some people.
    Descended CarnivalAbsolutely no RNG involved, 5 guaranteed +eggs per run if on 2x droprate. XP/Stamina isn't that great. Do the 2nd dungeon if you don't want to deal with bosses with resolve or Medjedra's leader switch (although you will eat a skill bind).
    AamirKind of annoying to run as Aamir's over-damage absorb for 2 turns can slow you down, but otherwise a solid 5 guaranteed+ with a very low chance for more. Fairly poor rank XP.
    Guan YinpingPotentially annoying restriction, but especially on boosted droprate in coin dungeon, where the 40-stamina version can pay up to 6+/run, it's worth a look at. Poor rank XP. Roughly 5+/run on Legend at 1x drop.
    TenguNot mentioned above because of its special niche. JP has gotten a Descended Challenge where Tengu's cost restriction has been removed. This makes it very quick for a button team to speed through it, as 3/5 floors can be buttoned down with Rodins. In general however, this dungeon has quite a good droprate, 4-5+/run, and before we get that Descended Challenge you can breeze through it with Pulseneedle system if you skilled that up for Mechdragon farming in the days of yore.
    (Farm Goemon/Valk/Zeus in Zeus Challenge/maybe PADZ if you want fastest +/hour)
     
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    Inagaki What are you, TAMA ?

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    Very interesting !
     
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    Mobile doesn't handle these types of charts well, they just get cut off on the side and you can't scroll over.
     
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    I just switch to desktop version. It doesn't crash my phone and I feel it looks neater.
     
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    Is the rate that a plus will be on a drop the same? Or, said differently, do all drops have the same probability of a plus?

    I don't know the answer to the question, but I always thought "no". I actually thought Goemon would rank the highest because I feel like I get a ton of plusses from that dungeon when I farm it. I have no data to support that, though.
     
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    The coin dungeon version of descended carnival is 100% drop under 2x drop. Each dungeon has 5 floors, they all drop and the dungeon itself is very easy (legend difficulty).

    So that's guaranteed 10 stamina per +egg. Below are my screenshots to prove this.

    GG 3x normal, 5x tech and SV. This is 10 stamina per egg without any RNG.
     

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    This 10x descend thing is really overboard, haha.
    Gungho must be like "I MADE A BOOBOO."
    It's better than SV in terms of both plus rates and farming speed.
     
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    Satan drops Succubus, Vamp and himself 100% so it's 3 drops.

    You also cannot get 7 drops in Hera-Is since there are 6 floors.
     
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    Eqlipse Well-Known Member

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    Fixed, thank you.
     
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    What teams are people using to button farm?
     
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    らぶたん 元AKB48

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    btw Hera-Is seems to be around 3.7 + per run on average. Gon sweeps it of course
     
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    Ew I'm not doing that also thanks for the data
     
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    Where/when are 10x descends? Can't find the reference for those happening, and nothing scheduled on padx.
     
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    Eqlipse Well-Known Member

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    It's in the current JP event.
     
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    Tomorrow is Thief Descended, good luck to anyone speedfarming!
     
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    Where is the announcement for this? I don't see it anywhere on pdx
     
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    It's listed on PADGuide.
     
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    10x is returning!

    I have updated the chart with the following descendeds:

    Jord
    Deus Ex Machina

    Deus Ex Machina has a potential 7 +egg drops per run, with two of them (1st floor and last floor) being guaranteed; also at the time of this post, it's going to be tomorrow's Descended. If you are farming Golems for Hysferzen or Sherospada, or otherwise want to see the + droprate, please record

    I foresee it being as good as Sowilo if it gets introduced in coin dungeon, except it pays out even more Rank EXP than Sowilo's beefy 600-ish (Deus Ex Machina gives out 752). The dungeon is a lot harder than Sowilo, however, and Sherospada's skill CD increase and resolve is super annoying if you're trying to speedfarm it.
     

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