[COMPLETE!] Need To Kill Fast and Partner is Too Slow: Soloing Rogues With Zeus Verse

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  1. ViewtifulGene

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    Some days you just don't have time to find a co-op partner. Or maybe you just got sick of running RLB into the ground, and want to run something else into the ground. Want to make some crazy MP without wasting time with partners and spending twice as long to dump stamina? If so Zeus Verse is your man. In this guide, I will show you how to solo rogue dungeons with Zeus Verse and budget subs, without needing Verse's long active.

    By budget, I mean that this guide requires no subs rarer than 5*. Unlike Yog, Kami, Minakushi, etc., Zeus Verse is for everyone.

    This guide begins with a summary of key subs. If you have nothing from this section, farm some of it up and come back. Next are walkthroughs for each rogue.* Expand each spoiler to view its respective section.


    Anji has been the king of rogues since his debut. His active takes care of Super Kings and Predras/Tans in one handy sub slot. He also levels quickly in rogues and has surprisingly decent attack for sniping. Never leave home without him. Farm him up from the Kenshin Collab next time it comes, if you haven't already.

    You can substitute Anji for any other laser, but you will then have to manually kill Supers. Anji takes Supers and Predras in one go.


    Several rogues require a shield or a heal button, and Lithia requires an awaken bind clear. A Grodin active is key for these reasons and Grodin Tamadra will do. Regular Grodin or Odin Dragon is better if you have them. But the Tamadra will work.
    NOTE THAT GRODIN TAMAZO DOES NOT CLEAR AWAKEN BINDS. YOU NEED THE REGULAR GRODIN TAMADRA.


    If you can get Kiri as a 5* from the Dragonbound REM, you can kill a majority of rogue bosses with only 3 orbs, NO OTHER COMBOS. With 3 Dragon Killers and an active that makes enemies weak to her, she eviscerates all the Dragon type bosses.



    Kiri's slightly less amazing older sister. Her two Dragon Killers allow her to brutalize most enemies in rogues. As a 5* GFE, Tsubaki is a prime Kiri substitute who has better availability than Kiri. Also a prime base for skill inheritance due to her workable 7 cooldown active and double Skill Boosts.


    Mito is the last of the key damage dealers for Verse. Just about everything in rogues that isn't a Dragon happens to be a Devil. And Mito has double Devil Killers. Her healing active is useful in some rogues. Otherwise, she makes a solid skill base with a fast active and 2 skill boosts.

    From a pure damage perspective, Mito is less important than Tsubaki and Kiri, for the simple reason that Verse has a Devil Killer himself. Regardless, she can save time on some rogues.

    There are other subs specific to each dungeon. They will be listed in their respective sections.


    Team requirements besides Anji:
    -A laser that can't be delayed, for boss phase 1.
    -A heal button for pirate floor, or a 100% shield beforehand.

    Recommended additions:
    -A second heal button, in case the samurai gets a pre-empt (20% chance)
    -Board change attached to your laser, to kill boss more easily.

    Anji is the only required sub in the above screen. You can bring any heal button. I recommend Famiel or Lumiel with an inherited delay buffer for the boss. Ilmina is even better if you have her, but she's rare.

    Floors 1&2- 1 combo will sweep. You only need to hit all targets. 4 purple orbs will do, for example.
    Floor 3- If you plan to use a 100% shield, pop it now. Otherwise, sweep without purple. A mass attack of any other color, or 4 yellows works. Raph is NOT recommended because Skyfall purples will keep the Shieldras alive.
    Floor 4- Heal button and 4 yellow. Combo if you don't have yellows.
    Floor 5- Heal button if needed. Otherwise, red gives a free turn to heal. Combo or 4 yellow.
    Floor 6- See 1&2
    Floor 7- Anji
    Floor 8- ping and clear trash orbs.
    Floor 9- 4 yellow and 2-3 combos. Or 4 yellow and 4 purple.
    Floor 10- Laser, preferably Famiel
    Floor 11- Want 2 yellow prongs, otherwise combo your Killer colors.


    Team requirements besides Anji:
    -A delay or Awaken Bind Clear for Folklore
    -A 100% shield or a heal button for Gainaut

    Recommended:
    A good source of blue damage, or a single-target laser for Fafnir.

    Your answer to the Gainaut pre-emptive will get no more than 6 turns to charge, assuming you use Anji to button a floor and do not delay Folklore. You can give yourself extra turns if you delay Folklore.

    In the above example, I had Tsubaki carry a Ganesha active. I need the SB badge to get Ganesha up in time. You may need your own adjustments, such as putting a full heal button on a skilled Whaledor. In any case, by any means necessary, the goal is to get the countdown to 6.

    Edit: @sgt502 pointed out that you can also use Undine to block the Gainaut hit. She has a faster cooldown than Ganesha, if you haven't scrapped yours for MP yet.

    Floors 1 and 2 are swept as long as you hit all targets. 4 purple orbs or a mass attack will do.
    Floor 3- 4 purple
    Floor 4- Kiri can clear it with 3 blues. Otherwise, just try to clear the board and let your combos break through. Tsubaki or Orochi is a good plan B, otherwise you can use Verse's yellow prongs.
    Floor 4- Tsubaki can one-shot with 3 red. Otherwise, go for a yellow prong and 1-3 other combos, or something to that effect.
    Floor 5- Anji
    Floor 6- Ping with anything
    Floor 7- Awaken Bind Clear + Ganesha, or delay and heal to buy time. When good and ready to move ob, Kiri can kill with 3 blue orbs. Otherwise, see Floor 4.
    Floor 8- 3 blue with Kiri. If using Tsubaki but not Kiri, use the red row he just made, and add 1 other combo.
    Floor 9- 3 blue with Kiri. If using Tsubaki but not Kiri, shoot for red with 3-4 other combos.


    What you will need besides Anji:
    -Any type of multi-turn buff, to prevent Green Ranger from making a combo guard. A counter or Skyfall buff works best.
    -Unbindable badge for Yellow Ranger
    -Bind clear for boss

    Recommended:
    -2 Dragon Killer cards. E.g., Tsubaki and Athena Helios.

    Floors 1-3- Just hit all targets for sweep
    Floor 4- Pop your buff here.
    Floor 5- 1C Tsubaki or 2-3 combos with yellow prong.
    Floor 6- See above
    Floor 7- Anji
    Floor 8- Ping all targets
    F9- See 5
    F10- See 5
    F11- Unbind. If using Kiri, you will need 2 combos or her own active to make Nordis red. If using Tsubaki and no other Killers, shoot for 3-4 combos to be safe.

    What you'll need besides Anji:
    -Awaken bind clear.

    Recommended:
    Nothing really. Dragon Killers save time.

    Floor 1- Hit all targets. You can use the Mass Attack badge for this dungeon if you want.
    F2- 3 purple orbs can kill, but try to clear jammers. Start tucking away hearts for later.
    F3- 4 yellow
    F4- Kiri can kill with 3 blue. Otherwise, yellow and 2-4 other combos.
    F5- Anji. Don't worry about the HP threshold yet.
    F6- Ping the Py or Predras while they have zero defense, and match hearts.
    F7- Tsubaki can kill with 3 red. Otherwise just combo.
    F8- See 7.
    F9- Clear awaken bind. Kiri active. 3 blue.


    What you'll need besides Anji:
    -A full heal or a 100% shield.
    -An FUA, delay, or a poison active. Delay only has to be one turn.

    Recommended:
    -Poison rather than FUA for laziness.

    Floor 1- Hit all targets.
    Floor 2- See above.
    Floor 3- Kiri can kill with 3 orbs. Otherwise, just do a couple combos. You get a free turn if you come up a little short.
    Floor 4- See 1 and 2.
    Floor 5- Heal fully on your first turn. If using a shield, pop him on the second turn and kill with a couple combos 4 yellow and 1-3 other conbis will do. NOTE THAT THIS VERSION OF KAGUTSUCHI IS NOT A DRAGON.
    Floor 6- Use your heal button if you didn't use a shield. 3 blue with Kiri.
    Floor 7- Anji
    Floor 8- Ping all targets.
    Floor 9- 4 yellow and look for easy combos for the next floor. Maybe pick one orb to create the prong while moving it toward an easy match next turn along the bottom.
    Floor 10- He dies if you clear the combo guard.
    Floor 11- Poison or other Resolve Killer option and 3 blue with Kiri. May need 1-3 other combos depending on eggs.
    *Due to the absurd constraints of Myr's dungeon compared to other rogues, there are no current plans to write a solo guide for that. Buy a different rogue in coins instead.
     
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  2. sgt502

    sgt502 ばかぷれーやー

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    If you're doing solo, mass attack badge is your best friend. Just one 3-orbs match will kill earlier floors.
    It's not like you need additional HP or fingers.
     
  3. ViewtifulGene

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    Sometimes the SB badge is needed to get shield/Heal buttons up in time, depending on team comp. Also, 4 purple orbs will wipe the Dragon Seeds, because both Verses and Anji will each take out 2.
     
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    You can also use Undine for Gainaut preemptive. Shorter CD than Ganesha.
     
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    Can confirm that the build for Nordis translates well to co-op. Just max skilled Verse farming Nordis with Verse teams.
     
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    ViewtifulGene Mostly Retired. Still A Lazy Shit.

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    I'll try to wrap up this guide over the next couple days. Just need to get screens and write down what I already figured out, but have been busy with other shit.
     
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    ViewtifulGene Mostly Retired. Still A Lazy Shit.

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    Guide is now complete. Any questions?
     
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    mtb911 Master Teambuilder, Mediocre player

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    What latents do you use on Verse? I'm loving using him so much!
     
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    ViewtifulGene Mostly Retired. Still A Lazy Shit.

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    None.
     
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    I really love this guide, thanks a lot for the walkthroughs. This should be sticky...

    I would add two things:
    First: Scarlet descended - I would count this as Rogue, too.
    Walkthrough is easy:
    - Devil killers are golden here.
    - Do not use Droidragon as def void here, he gets bound by Kraken.
    - Make sure you survive Hera preemptive (consider Levels of your cards) and be able to heal back.

    Second: I took some time to find very niche cards that work well for these teams. As you cannot filter for certain actives, a list would be helpful. E.g. (I do not claim completeness)
    - Cards that have dev void besides Anji (Shiva unawoken, Droidragon, Balboa)
    - Cards that can fully heal you (I have none after 1700+ days...if I need more than 50%, e.g. for Hera preempt in Scarlet I use green Wee Jas)
     
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    I've been trying to theory craft a team for Scarlet but it isn't as clean or fast as I would like.
    Zeus Verse/LR Ariel/ReRa/Pixel Plesios(Sitri)/Genie

    Zeus Verse needs 297 and 1 devil killer.
    Pixel Plesios needs 2 devil killer.
    Ariel/Shedar, Ra, Plesios, Sitri, and Genie should be MS.
    Floors 1-2. Dark TPA
    Floor 3. Light TPA
    Floor 4. Dark TPA
    Floor 5. Genie, Ra
    Floor 6. Light TPA
    Floor 7. Sitri, Blue 3x3
    Floor 8. Ariel, Light TPA

    Edit: Change Ariel to Shedar. Floor 8. Shedar, make a TPA with the row he makes. That should make things slightly faster.
     
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    Uggghh! I have everything you've listed in your guide, except 1 small problem, my Anji isn't skilled up! I'd have a total of +14 SB reduction making me 8 turns short to use his active. What steps can be followed alternatively for F5 and F6 on Linthia rogue if I replace his spot with a laser that would be ready by F5?

    My other slots would be [1] WOG, Zeus Verse; [2] Laser/(Anji once skilled up some more); [3] Kiri; [4] Mito; [5] Asgardian Warlock, Odin; [6] {Friend leader} WOG, Zeus Verse

    Thanks!
     
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    This is luck based only and I did pull it off... I replaced Anji with NY Ame since she's fully skilled and has sub attribute of fire(this is needed for "guard break"). The luck based part is having at least 3 of each color element on the board on F5 so you can use "guard break" from Mito, which I targeted the Mask manually and I did have 3 exactly of 3 different elements and 4+ of others. Then you can stall on 1-2 turns with mythlit still up, full heal with hearts and finish it off. I then use NY Ame skill on the PreDras (F6).

    PSA: Since I bought this dungeon in the shop, the 1st floor was a "finger+" tama, so I made sure to use "guard break" on F1 as well to be sure I'd penetrate it's defense.

    PSA2: In the Linthia guide, it may be a good idea to mention once on F8 to store and don't use blue orbs so you don't get accidentally screwed and possibly not have at least 3 up for when it's F9 time.
     
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    Just a reminder that farming Nordis with Verse is easier and, IMO, more fun than trying to farm the dungeon with ALB.

    Happy shynpy farming, all!
     
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    Is there any kind of Discord presence for Verse? Farming is so much better with using 1/2 stamina.
     
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    No idea, but I imagine you'd find folks on the PF Discord or the PAD reddit Discord willing to co-op.

    I just co-op with my alt.
     
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    Zaku Delete Kirin off your friendlists

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    I just wanted to say i got lots of mileage out of this guide already this wave of roguepy invades. thanks a lot!
     
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    My team for Scarlet
    Verse- Anji- Ganesha- Shazel- Odindra- Verse

    Floor 1- Kill/stall you have 3 turns
    Floor 2- Kill
    Floor 3- Kill
    Floor 4- Odindra, Kill
    Floor 5- Ganesha, Anji
    Floor 6- Kill
    Floor 7- 0combo, ping with non-devil killer card, kill
    Floor 8- Kill

    This is a really easy dungeon. The only fail points are Scarlet First Form if you have jammers on the board.
    Ganesha can be another damage void like Genie or a healer that can heal to full. Shazel can be any card with Devil killers
     
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    tanpopo adventure!

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    Uevo Ishtar is pretty good vs Volsung. Can use her skill to heal to full off of the water cat, then the defense null carries through to the super king and pii floors. Plus she's green and has dragon killer.
     
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    Anyone have any ideas on doing Myr with Verse.
     

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