+egg data from JP blog & NA spreadsheets (12/26 update)

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    Unknown_PC

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    12/26 - If you're here for 10x Descend +egg info, please refer to:

    Eqlipse's PF thread on "Best places to farm for + in 10x" .
    or
    Setsu's PAD Blog on "Preparing for 10x +Eggs for Descendeds" .


    Normal Dungeons (during 3x +egg event and 1.5x drop rate bonus)
    Dungeon Name _ Amount of runs _ Number of +eggs _ Number of +egg per run _ Stamina spent per +egg _ Rank EXP efficiency
    Sky Dragons' Domain 1709 2173 1.27 23,6 464
    Legendary Dragons' Footprints 1684 2096 1.24 24.1 440
    Starlight Sanctuary-5 0.9 18.9 818
    Ocean of Heaven-5 1.1 13.6 445
    Starlight Sanctuary-1 (14 sta) 1250 853 0.68 20.5 464
    Ocean of Heaven-1 (12 sta) 1250 905 0.72 16.6 416
    Tower to the Sky-4 (12 sta) 1250 865 0.69 17.3 375
    Tomb of the Saint-Deep-1~4 (10 sta) 1583 1038 0.66 15.2 407
    ​

    Technical Dungeons (during 5x +egg event and 1.5x Monday)
    Dungeon Name _ Amount of runs _ Number of +eggs _ Number of +egg per run _ Stamina spent per +egg _ Rank EXP efficiency
    Forbidden Tower-4 5520 3162 0.573 20.9 178
    Talos's Abyss-5 871 585 0.67 23.8 292
    Tower of Blazing Fire - Only / No Fr-1 1133 504 0.44 29.2 65
    Mechdragons' Massive Fortress 1591 2413 1.52 33 380
    ​


    Tower of Jewels (during 2x drop)
    Dungeon Name _ Amount of runs _ Number of +eggs _ Number of +egg per run _ Stamina spent per +egg _ Rank EXP efficiency
    Tower of Jewels - Master 1400 535 0.38 39.3 228
    Tower of Jewels - Expert 1600 593 0.37 40.5 82
    ​


    Others
    Dungeon Name _ Amount of runs _ Number of +eggs _ Number of +egg per run _ Stamina spent per +egg _ Rank EXP efficiency
    Ruins of the Star Vault [NA] (+egg urgent dungeon) 1729 2659 1.54 19.5 149
    Ruins of the Star Vault [JP] (+egg urgent dungeon) 8073 12012 1.49 20.16 149
    Forbidden Tower-4 (5x tech, no 1.5x Monday) 4911 1879 0.38 31.4 178
    Mechdragons' Massive Fortress (5x tech, no 1.5x Monday) 3017 3909 1.29 38.6 380
    Ocean of Heaven-5 (1.5x) 2203 797 0.36 41.5 445
    Starlight Sanctuary-5 (1.5x) 460 153 0.33 51.5 818
    Hyperion Lava Flow-5 (1.5x) 598 156 0.26 46 522
    ​

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    Older data below
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    Original blog post can be found here and here. Data collected by Yokoshime_777, and his twitter

    Below is just a quick translation of the tables from the blog post, worth checking out for those thinking about farming +eggs long-term.

    Tier 6 Normal Dungeons (during 1.5x weekday drop boost)
    Dungeon Name Amount of runs Stamina spent Total egg drops Number of +eggs
    Chaos Dragon of Ruins 470 7990 2975 155
    Lightning Dragons of the Skies 375 6375 2386 145
    Star-Breaking Dragon 470 7990 2975 155
    Ice Crystal Dragon 289 4624 1763 92
    Lava Dragon of Mantle 357 5712 2239 126
    ​


    Summary
    Dungeon Name Drops/run Runs/+egg Stamina/+egg Drops/+egg
    Chaos Dragon of Ruins 6.3 3.0 52 19
    Lightning Dragons of the Skies 6.4 2.6 44 16
    Star-Breaking Dragon 6.1 3.1 50 19
    Ice Crystal Dragon 6.1 3.6 58 22
    Lava Dragon of Mantle 6.3 2.8 45 18
    Average of above 5 6.2 3.0 50 19
    Sea-God of Heaven 7.2 2.8 42 20
    Guards of the Lower Levels 4.6 5.4 65 25
    Golden/Jasper/Sapphire Altar 5.4 4.9 49 27
    ​


    Normal Dungeons (during 1.5x drop boost)
    Dungeon Name Amount of runs Number of +egg per run Stamina spent per +egg Placement Rank EXP efficiency
    Ocean of Heaven-5 1216 0.376 39.8 10 441
    Tower to the Sky-5 400 0.365 41.1 11 437
    Jupiter, City in the Sky-5 375 0.387 44.0 3 538
    Vesta Cave-5 357 0.353 45.3 8 490
    Hyperion Lava Flow-2 321 0.215 46.5 15 358
    Tower to the Sky-1 803 0.227 47.6 12 496
    Frozen Soil of Prosell-2 209 0.263 49.4 7 465
    Mars Crater-5 289 0.318 50.3 4 493
    Oceanus Falls-2 151 0.199 50.3 14 441
    Kronos Forest-2 214 0.196 51.0 13 356
    Junos Island-5 470 0.330 51.5 2 521
    Starlight Sanctuary-5 353 0.329 51.7 1 760~
    Frozen Soil of Prosell-5 500 0.278 57.6 6 488
    Mars Crater-2 174 0.224 58.0 5 472
    Vesta Cave-2 219 0.210 61.9 9 490
    ​


    Technical Dungeons (during 5x +egg event)
    Dungeon Name Amount of runs Number of +egg per run Stamina spent per +egg Placement Rank EXP efficiency
    Talos's Abyss-5 782 0.380 42.1 2 292
    Tower of Blazing Fire - Only / No Fr-1 2157 0.276 47.0 1 65
    ​

    Talos during 5x event is decent, but still not as good as Ocean of Heaven during weekend 1.5x boost

    Blazing Great Wings has very poor rank exp. But a high level Kagutsuchi (lv 77+) can clear all trash waves for a 2 minute dungeon run. In term +egg per hour, Blazing Great Wings may be the highest during 5x event especially when stacked with 1.5x Monday boost.

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    Some random food for thoughts:

    - Ocean of Heaven-5 has surprisingly low stamina per +egg rate, definitely a great choice for weekends. Starlight-5 has amazing rank exp of course, but will likely need a decent Goemon team to farm it with efficiency.

    - Tier 6 on weekdays look promising. R/G/B ones are relatively easy with a decent Zeus team. Juno-5 is quite consistent with 9x Valk. I find Jupiter-5 to be one of the tougher one due to 1-turn bosses.

    - Ran a lot of Blazing Great Wings these couple days, it's amazing with the 5x +egg event. Even though the rank exp is almost nonexistent, it's just too fast of clear with a Kagu + orb changers + 2x atk friend.

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    Revisions:

    7/23 - Added more 3x normal data from Heart_pad's twitter and theoretical KoG and OoH-5 rates. Thanks to Kumomo for sharing the link.
    4/12 - Added more 3x normal data from Heart_pad's twitter. Thanks to Kumomo for sharing the link.
    3/26 - Added 3x normal data from Pazusoku thread and Mix Twitter. Thanks to Kumomo and Nez for bringing these to my attention. Also added 5596 more SV runs from Mix, more 5x tech Mech data from myself.
    11/4 - Added some more 2x Mech data linked from Nez (1 2)
    10/26 - Added 2x Mech (JP only) + 5x tech stats from JP player, Kyame's plus marathon.
    7/25 - Added NA Star Vault results from Xirt's spreadsheet. A big thanks to all who helped to contribute the data.
    7/15 - Added JP Ruins of the Star Vault-Starry View Lane (+egg urgent dungeon) data from pad-plus
    6/8 - Added KoG, OoH-5, and Hyperion-5 from bunbunfriedrice's spreadsheet
    6/2 - Haven't updated this thread for a while, so here are some new stuff:
    New tech dungeon data from bunbunfriedrice's spreadsheet and Xirt's spreadsheet
    2x ToJ data from Kosuke and Rijicho
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    Interesting...

    What is the column "placement" mean?
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    edit - jk
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    Hi, I'm the owner of the blog.:blush:
    "Placement" simply means where the dungeons were placed at in ascending order.
    From Starlight Sanctuary(1) to Hyperion etc(15). Might be able to call it difficulty sort.
    Thanks for the introduction. I owe you for unreleased data, UPC!
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    This is awesome, thanks for compiling and posting, guys.

    Do we maybe want to keep this stickied / turned into a guide? I feel like there's a question nearly every day about +egg frequency, and this is easily the most robust dataset I've seen.
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    Thanks for the clarification on the placement column.

    Likewise, I'm a fan of your blog, keep up the amazing work; it has been incredibly informative for many references.
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    Thank you for clarification.
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    I've noticed that my +egg drop rate has skyrocketed since I started farming Ocean of Heaven for mystic masks. Good to know that is the most effective place for +eggs.
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    Just curious is anyone else has done Lance that split the ocean. It's one of my favorites and I had pretty good results from that yesterday.
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    Was any data compiled for hills of iris?
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    I'm very glad. Feel free to use any examinations on my blog in this forum.
    Though it should be hard to read because of the language.

    Unfortunately, Hills of Iris has not been included in the targets of those runs. So there's no data for now.
    I guess it'll be close to the result of Talos's Abyss.
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    Awesome thread. Anyone have any advice on teams for farming Chaos Dragon of Ruins and Lightning Dragons of the Skies? I put those dungeons away after beating em lol. Need to get back on em for those +eggs
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    This is such an awesome thread! Definitely gotta sticky this!
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    Its Slow but Ama/Odin works. I bring the Ancient Dragon that does double damage to the boss and Hera as well.
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    Is the consensus, from this table, that Ocean of Heaven - Sea-God of Heaven is the best farm spot during weekends?
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    If you don't care about masks I feel like Tower to the Sky-5 is the better farming spot since the drop rate/exp/money are about the same and the stage gives you more types of drops instead of just blue/gold.
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    It'd be interesting to see the timeline for when this data was collected. The P&D podcast I follow has been talking about a noticeable nerf to Ocean of Heaven recently, and that you're better off farming high techs on Monday and higher tier normals on Weekends.

    So specifically, I'm curious about whether the nerf occurred, and if it did, whether the data reflects it if you plotted it in a time graph.
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    Regardless though, in order not to be trolled by Wed and Fri dungeons, there is certain amount of farming that has to be done at OHH and Isis' hill. +eggs is just another plus.

    For instance, I have been trolled numerous times on Friday during x2 drop events, (like 4 runs with no dub-mythlit). The same amount of stamina can bring me a lot of satisfaction at Isis' Hill instead.

    By the way, sorry if this has been mentioned before. Count the floors that can drop and divide that by stamina, you will see why the boss levels of any dungeons typically have better drop/+egg ratio per stamina.
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    There's a PAD podcast?
     
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    RE: +egg data from JP blog (over 10k runs)

    My thoughts exactly. I looked and didn't see anything in particular. Anyone mind linking what it is?
     
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