First A5 clear on the second try!

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  1. axlpowa

    axlpowa Well-Known Member

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    After seeing many people clearing it, I thought "why couldn't I?".
    Chose Shirou as my lead since I didn't use him much yet. Team looks like this:




    Both Shirou have finger+ SA
    Madoo has cloud resist SA
    Rin has tape resist SA
    Cotton has 7c SA

    Baldin's Hakuryu will probably be replaced by a blind resist equip. Had it mostly to easily VDP Verse, but it's overkill as you can chip him down to below 50 before VDP.

    Contrary to popular belief, most dungeons don't require full R/L team and you're much better off having non-light subs with good utility than (often) useless HP.

    Also no Rathian equip after all as there are no really dangerous poison spawning monsters.
    Kuramitsuha and the blue dragon boss though are way more dangerous with 15 turns of poison and mortal poison skyfalls respectively. Fenrir is pretty clutch in these scenarios.

    Dungeon is actually pretty straightforward, most floors just die to regular combos.
    Those that don't are easily stallable (Durga, Manticore, Yeti thing, Verse, etc.).

    Be careful of Hera Nyx as she does a huge gravity and 70k hit.

     
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    Nice! How awesome is Shirou?

    Glad to see you point out the flexibility with non-light subs. See a lot of people still worrying about that. A5 is a really great dungeon to farm if you can clear consistently.
     
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    Light subs provides the HP but if you can meet the HP threshold for some big preemptive hits or if you prepare a shield for that, having one or two non-Light subs is pretty safe. A5 biggest threat for high HP team without built in shield is only Hera Nyx and Kuramitsuha's poison skyfall. I choose Madoo or Mega Rodin as a VDP subs for Emiya Shirou, but I guess RCotton is the most powerful VDP subs for the team since the team also need high combo for full activation.
     
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    Yeah, well Suou is probably still better if you did not already give him dragon killers (which are not useful in A5). On the other hand, Baldin's skill is better here IMO.

    I also added a few more SDR on Cotton because sometimes I end up not even being able to use Fenrir with all the skill delays. RIP.

    What is your preferred method of dealing with Nyx? Just OHKO?
     
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    Yeah I notice in a lot of videos that people have 6 SDR on certain subs with certain inherits. Guess I gotta farm the crap out of those when they come back around.
     
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    Nyx has pretty big void threshold and not that much HP so most of the times I ended up one shot her without making VDP (with FUA ofc) even with some damage getting voided.
     
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    Was pretty surprised by that first time. Hit her to like 20% when I wasn't really trying to. That was with my original Reeche/Ilmina team. Wonder how easy it will be with my current Shirou team.
     
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    When the fuck does Athena do Siculus strike? She just killed me after 3 turns, yet I've stalled her out tons of times without it happening. No idea how to prepare for it. Shitpadx says every 4 turns.
     
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    You mean the ridiculous hit I guess? I don't know, I have died to it once on first turn, I thought it was because she was 100% HP or something.

    Usually I get to Athena with some turns left on my inherit and stall no problem so... Can't say. Skyozora is so confusing to me lol.
     
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    Yeah, it's a 150% gravity and I'm pretty sure I've died to it first turn before as well. Can't decipher Skyozora either. I anger fed a bunch of SDR to Rin so I don't have to deal with it until I can get a definitive answer. Can properly latent her again when I figure it out.
     
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    I think it's something like x% chance of her throwing Siculus Strike or her other skill set (super blind some orbs and binds random sub) with Siculus Strike only gets 40% chance of happening, I guess.

    My first clear with DMeta, I knew my team can tank her Siculus Strike (150% gravity) so I just did 7+ combo each turn until my Fujin came up. In some 10+ turns, she didn't hit me with Siculus Strike. I don't know if it's tied to her HP or something but M.Athena in A5 definitely behaves differently than her own dungeon. She also has fewer HP in A5. In her dungeon, you can get hit with Siculus Strike in her 2nd turn or 4th turn but it's bound to happen so you can prepare for it.

    150% gravity is definitely hard for high HP teams without built in shield, especially when it's randomly happened. It's better to stall for your Fujin the floor before. If you got Thor and you have cloud resist, it's easy. Thor even gives you free turn when you pushed his HP below 20%. He will put up a status shield first before execute you.
     
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    Yeah my Fujin is always up, but she does a 4 turn delay or so and I didn't have enough SDR on the base card. It was 1 turn away from being back up and just got destroyed. So frustrating.
     
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    I have some SDR on my main. Hit me up with a trade and I'll send you some.
     
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    I have them, I just didn't have enough on that card because I didn't think Athena would punch me in the junk like that. Thanks though! :D
     
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