Ideas to consistently beat Legendary Seaway

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  1. bullion

    bullion New Member

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    It seems like there isn't a consolidated thread about Legendary Seaway. This dungeon is very difficult and I have not been able to consistently beat it myself (had a couple 1 stone clears). Somebody suggested that there should be a post in this section so I am just going to put the info that I gathered from various threads here.

    Thanks everyone for the input and feel free to add your comments!

    See original discussions in
    http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=48881
    http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=53766
    http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/showthread.php?tid=48675

    In general, it seems like any spike teams 12x or above can form a team to beat it. Subs are quite flexible other than a poison or delay to deal with floor 6. Max skilled monsters and low cd orb changers/skill boosts are key because stalling is a luxury here.

    Kirin :
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1218.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1099.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/694.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/760.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1217.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1218.png[/img] - Can sub Lmeta for [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/365.png[/img] or [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/685.png[/img].
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1218.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1099.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/685.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/929.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1217.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1218.png[/img]

    Another build: Kirin, Echnida, Lmeta, Verche Athena, Kirin
    - Fl1-5 are based purely on powerkilling everything, so fairly based on board. Can take two hits if they aren't synced thanks to LMeta. Fl6: 2x 4-pronged kills Rodin Tamadra (remember to target the tamadra) in an activation. Fl7: Echidna, Gravities, Verche + Athena whenever she's back up

    Horus
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/995.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1217.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1099.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1106.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1423.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/995.png[/img]

    U&Y
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/802.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/989.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1105.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1217.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/365.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/802.png[/img]
    (Max skill Lilith + 5 skill boosts for floor 6. L. Meta and B. Odin actives let you heal a bit during the dungeon, making it easier to stall. They can be replaced with other skill boosters like D/L batman. U&Y active + Yomi kills red dragon and finish off blue next turn. Sometimes Yomi isn't up in time for red dragon - may save heal actives soak a hit from it if necessary.)

    Other sub candidates: Venus instead of Yomi; Echnida instead of poison and Siren for hearts

    Brute force U&Y team
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/802.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1423.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1423.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1299.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/808.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/802.png[/img]
    (This team has about 23k without +eggs. With some +eggs, it can survive 2 hits in case of orb troll. No stalling required at all, can straight rush though. U&Y active on the Odin Tama floor easily sweeps everything. 2x4 blues will get you >300k blue damage. For boss level, U&Y active + Izanagi to kill both dragons. If the blue one survives then you still got like 3 turns to kill it. Make sure to abuse U&Y's TPA on the last 2 floors.)

    Red Guan Yu:
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1244.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/912.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/912.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1076.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1106.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1244.png[/img]

    Satan/Lubu:
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/647.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1105.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/912.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/639.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/893.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/647.png[/img]
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1240.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1105.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/912.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/639.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/893.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1240.png[/img]

    Another build - Lubu, Ronia, Ronia, Haku, Lilith, Lubu - Has enough hp to take a couple hits. Better with skilled Haku and Ronias for floors 1-5. Floor 6 Lilith, Floor 7 second Ronia Lubu

    Luxury build - Lubu, max skilled Rodin, max skilled RSonia, max skilled RSonia, Haku, RSonia
    (Haku is up fl1 if skilled. Sonias should be max skilled)

    Dmeta:
    - Has trouble dealing with synced first floor. You can either tank the hits with 23895 HP (bonia, golem, Rodin and lots of + eggs are useful for HP threshold) or have skilled kush or himiko to get into zone
    - floor 6 can use Lilith, skilled 10th Angel (also attacker), UFO, or max skill Rodin (ideally within 6 turns after skill boosts for zero stalling)
    - rest of the subs should be fast orb changers
    - off-colour attackers (e.g. Rodin) is also helpful when low on dark orbs

    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/643.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1195.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1195.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1089.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1108.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/643.png[/img] - everyone max skilled (including Rodin) except dmeta
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/643.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/912.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/804.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1195.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/320.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/643.png[/img]

    Mixed DL Lilith/Dmeta (can kill sync'ed first floor)

    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1105.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/912.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1195.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1195.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/814.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/643.png[/img]
    another example

    Pandora - stable team requires one skilled Pandora
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1074.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1195.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1105.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/643.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1269.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1074.png[/img]

    Can also run Pandora/Ronia/CDK/Lilith/DW Batman or Loki/Pandora
    - Pandora and CDK max skilled. Ronia needs to skilled enough to be up for boss. DW Batman/Loki gives an extra boost for boss in case of a bad Ronia board.

    DQXQ
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1238.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1423.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1099.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1108.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1105.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1238.png[/img]
    - max skilled Lilith for floor 6, Enchidna for boss floor (sl. 2 is fine), Rodin is there for skill boost (can sub u&y for 2 prong)

    Athena
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1422.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1373.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/825.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/999.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1267.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1422.png[/img] (turn 10 Ra and turn 12-13 Mei Mei & Athena required)
    Alternative Athena build See video
    - Substitute Ra and Verche with max skilled ROdin and DQXQ/Apollo. The team has enough skillboosts so that Genbu will be up even if she's slv1. The downside is that you won't have the emergency Verche active for fl 1-5, though you should not get get orbtrolled if you clear as many blue/dark orbs as you can every turn. You have so many ways to clear these floors, e.g. with 1x5 fire, 1x4 light, 1x4 green.

    DL Fagan
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1343.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1268.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1195.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1105.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/658.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1343.png[/img]
    Paprika's JP Fagan run

    D/D Zaerog
    [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1215.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1108.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/912.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/912.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/914.png[/img][img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1215.png[/img]
    - Max skilled Rodin required. Can clear with green/red/dark orbs

    Combo leads - [img=50x50]http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/img/book/1001.png[/img]
    It's obvious but for completeness sake... Anubis can pretty much clear with any subs. Same with other combo leads (kush, isis, robin, etc) if you can combo consistently
     
  2. sprcow

    sprcow Member

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    I ran it a couple times with this build and it felt pretty stable:



    Key points:
    • U&Y is much easier to activate without hearts, but move time from Yomi still helps.
    • Max skill Lilith + 5 skill boosts guarantees poison will be ready for floor 6.
    • L. Meta and B. Odin actives let you heal a bit during the dungeon, making it easier to stall.
    • U&Y active + Yomi kills red dragon no problem. Shouldn't have any trouble finishing off the blue dragon before it attacks. Sometimes Yomi isn't up in time for red dragon - may save heal actives soak a hit from it if necessary.

    L. Meta and B. Odin are mostly present for stats/awakenings, though, so they could easily be replaced with other skill boosters. D/L Batman in particular is attractive.
     
  3. Obelisk

    Obelisk Active Member

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    Just want to confirm this build was pretty consistent when I tried it myself.
     
  4. Nez

    Nez Beautiful World!

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    Seems like you forgot Athena, she's one of the best at farming LS. GZL Mei Verche Ra as subs, turn 10 ra and turn 12-ish (13 possibly) Mei&Athena required.

    Also D/L Fagan can do it but it's a bit harder. Arthur, skill-ups on Haku and maybe more trixies required.
     
  5. PhyXer

    PhyXer New Member

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    For D.Meta teams, you can just nuke the R.Odin Tamadra with the boss from the EVA Collab. Tenth Angel, was it? Terrible RCV but that doesn't matter in this dungeon, and it's more HP than Lilith. That's another option for those who don't have one, since it's actually a much more consistent grab than a Lilith while EVA Collab is around. You do have to work to skill it up, though. The dubmyths only have 12 HP each so they should be easy enough.

    Or, if you have an UFO Ver.2, it has even more HP to let you hit thresholds and can be skilled to 8. Isn't an Attacker, though.

    Could also bring Kushinada max-skilled, and bring either a max-skilled Dark Golem or max-skilled R.Odin with that since no other subs have skill boosts AND the ability to help you clear the Tamadra floor. (Something like D.Meta/Hanzo/R.Sonia/Dark Golem/Kushi/D.Meta).
    Even with only Hanzo and 2x D.Meta, a full Dark + Enhance board is enough to burst the boss floor. If you don't hit a synced wave Floor 1, you can then save Kushi for a different floor or just to buy a few more turns off a Pengdra somewhere.

    Also, for D.Meta, I'm fairly sure you can clear pirates without any kind of multiplier at all. I might have to test, but I know I've done it, possibly with the use of 2-prong on Hanzo or just a full row match.

    Then again, I've switched to Pandora since it's definitely a lot easier with mine max-skilled...
     
  6. bullion

    bullion New Member

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    Thanks for all the inputs! Edited the OP.

    what's a Fagan team look like? Fagan Haku Arthur and what other subs?

    The other teams I can think of are bonia, GZL and maybe a bulky healer team? I am not familiar with those teams though.
     
  7. Nez

    Nez Beautiful World!

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    Here is Paprika's JP Fagan run.

    In US it's probably

    Fagan / RHaku Hanzo* Vritra Lilith / Fagan

    *Since CDD has no skill-ups.

    4 skillboosts = requires one turn of stalling somewhere. Probably snipe with 1x4 dark orbs early and activate hanzo on that floor or earlier to keep up the dark orbs.
    5 row boost = both bosses should be one-shot in most cases.
     
  8. 0never

    0never Retired!

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    I've personally been brute forcing it with something like this....



    - No stalling required at all, can straight rush though.
    - 25k+ HP (for me, around 23k without +eggs), can survive 2 things hitting at the same time in case of orb troll. Also got autoheals to patch me up if I ever take hits.
    - U&Y active on the Odin Tama floor easily sweeps everything. 2x4 blues will get you >300k blue damage.
    - U&Y active + Izanagi to kill both dragons. If the blue one survives then you still got like 3 turns to kill it, no problems.
    - Yeah make sure to abuse U&Y's TPA on the last 2 floors.


    Too much orb trolling can still kill me, but I think this is about as safe as you can get with U&Y, between the massive HP, autoheals, and no stalling required.
     
  9. notkyle7

    notkyle7 The cats- they are being looked at yes

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    I have successfully run this twice with Kirin/kirin, echidna, BAO copperhead, l.meta, bubblie. BAO and echidna need max skill, everything max awoken.
     
  10. bullion

    bullion New Member

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    wow very interesting brute force U&Y with 4k autoheals

    For the Fagan team, that's some sick damages from the video. Now time to get a Fagan to start.... lol
     
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    supebeans Active Member

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    So not having Izanagi is the bane of my existence right now. Do you think this team would work without him? If so, who should be used in his place?
     
  12. Nez

    Nez Beautiful World!

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    Echidna or Uvo merlin seem acceptable.
     
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    supebeans Active Member

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    What would the significance be in using an uevo Merlin over a uevo Marine? I can see the rider's tpa as being a good replacement for the Inzanagi burst since the tpa burst should be strong and help clear the floors.

    Only downfall right now is not having a team that can take the Sacred Mask dungeon :(

    Edit: Nevermind, I think I see the reason. Merlin has main element of Water for higher TPA burst... I get it lol
     
  14. asCaio

    asCaio New Member

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    I did it with this team:
    [img=60x60]http://pad.skyozora.com/images/pets/1269.png[/img] [img=60x60]http://pad.skyozora.com/images/pets/1269.png[/img] [img=60x60]http://pad.skyozora.com/images/pets/1084.png[/img] [img=60x60]http://pad.skyozora.com/images/pets/365.png[/img] [img=60x60]http://pad.skyozora.com/images/pets/1099.png[/img] [img=60x60]http://pad.skyozora.com/images/pets/1269.png[/img]

    Pretty solid and safe,Haku active and Grape can help if you get orb trolled, you just need a 4 dark combo+ Water/Fire to sweep the floor,Dalay the tamadra Rodin and kill them, use your 3 haku actives to sweep the boss down.

    Video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAO_QbPNLuo&list=UUOycVUzWALAt0TtivzLZYiQ
     
  15. Superpeon

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    I'll have to see how consistent I get with DQXQ otherwise I may have to brush off the dust of my U&Y :)
     
  16. meteor

    meteor Gigas the Great Admirer

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    I'd been running this team exclusively for the first 2-3 weeks after this dungeon was open until my ROdin and U&Y were max skilled. Even without Echidna, the bosses are no issue if you spend a free turn on fl6 setting up CTW properly and clearing excessive green orbs. HOWEVER I'd say every 4-5 runs you die to orbtroll on fl1-5. It's just inevitable with this team -- the same for Kirin.

    Also, this build was made before GOdin got his uvo. Now, it's probably better to replace LMeta or BOdin with GOdin for more autoheals, plus his green ATK will help you snipe king sapphires more easily. (If you replace BOdin with GOdin, make sure you have enough HP to tank a hit from Tama ROdin before lilith is up)

    If you want near 100% clear, I recommend the DQXQ and Athena builds. My preferred DQXQ lineup is:



    Unlike U&Y, you can't die on fl1-5 with DQXQ. However, bosses will be considerably tougher to kill. Especially when you get 0 skyfall, you are going to need to plan at least 1-2 turns of 8+ combos. That's the only downside of this team.
     
  17. CMStewart

    CMStewart Active Member

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    This is the team I've been using since the dungeon opened. Not quite 100% because you can get orb-trolled with mobs on synced 1 timers and not get a skyfall, but I rarely fail.

    Ra, GOdin, and Echidna are max-skilled. Ra needs enough skills to be up by floor 6, and Echidna by floor 7. Activate the Kirins at floors 1-5. Use Ra to sweep floor 6. Use Echinda and Kirin your way to victory on floor 7.
     
  18. Jambo

    Jambo Bawheed

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    I've been using Kirin, Godin, LMeta, Echidna, Lilith, Kirin with good success.

    Godin, Lmeta and Lilith give me 3,000 health every turn, which means it's often possible to take more than one hit on the run through to the tama floor.

    Orb trolling is still the major reason for failing as is my incompetency sometimes :)

    I'm hoping that once I can max skill my Kushi, I can start to use Green Zhuge Liang as a more reliable alternative.
     
  19. FoxtrotFool

    FoxtrotFool Well-Known Member

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    I don't have GOdin... so my U&Y team in my secondary account is limited to orb troll from room 1-4

    U&Y, DL Lilith, Echidna, Uvo Midgard, Tengu
    Basically, at worst, I tank one hit from ROdin Tamadra, and poison room 6.

    I never had any problems killing the twin dragons with 2 U&Y bursts with Echidna.

    My "Perfect" Seaway team on my primary account is:
    Valkitty, Super Gunma, Gabriel, Echidna, Tengu, Valkitty friend
    Very safe through first 5 rooms, rainbow basically means you can get enough attack if you combo hard enough. Echidna room 6, and kill Odin and one of the dubs, and tank hit to recharge echidna.
    Room 7 has 7 turns to kill Red. And then Pop Tengu to basically grind Blue to death. 2500 healing per turn means Tengu is ready after every 3 turns.

    Perhaps with Godin, you don't need to use valkitty team.
     
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    Iluvatar Semi-IAP..damn you GH

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    I was hoping to try this but don't have a so called perfect team. I have a strong Lu Bu team, (D/D Haku, D/F Hadar, CCD, DL Lilith) but I know stalling isn't an option.

    Another choice is obviously Anubis, but I was thinking I could use some hybrid physical build with
    B/L Isis, G/L Parv, Ult Grodin, King Shynee and my wild card being either D/L Yomi, 18turn Hera-Is or Echidna. Basically the thinking is with Isis/Parv/Grodin I can stall a hit or two here and there, plus have the color advantage on the boss. I guess I would have to use Echidna on the 6th floor, as I don't have a way to sweep. I would pair with another W/L Isis or L/L Kirin helper.

    Thoughts?
     

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