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Discussion in 'P&D Discussion' started by Near, Jun 23, 2015.
The list hasn't had that much of a drastic change, opinions?
Kali for S rank lead, Isis for S rank sub.
Was Zuo on the list before? I thought he was an omission before, but A-Rank as a lead isn't bad. Surprised he's A+ rank as a sub - I can never seem to fit him on my teams due to his 0 RCV. Maybe I need a Pandora.
My only opinion:
WHERE IS MY VISHNU ULT EVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo
Ah... Shame that NA may never get 3 of those on the S rank list ...
List is.. eh. very Flavor of the Month
* fist pump*
ahorus still in dere
Awoken Lakshmi is the only S rank leader available in NA.
Also, Lakshmi isn't S rank in NA because no MH Collab.
Also list is incomplete, Infinity Zaerog is very strong if you run a Haku system.
The Lakshmi team that cleared the 21 floor technical didn't have Baggi
So did many other leads with sub-optimals teams. It either took 472198471280 runs which makes it a very bad choice to run that dungeon or they used save-load like others said on that thread.
I think the Lakshmi one was pretty much confirmed cheating.
Lakshmi has a decent farmable sub in amberjack, which I think parvati lacks, which is something worth noting. Kali isn't s-rank lead because she's too squishy I think.
In what way? The list is based on tried and tested power levels and ease of use, popularity is not a major determining factor for leaders and not remotely a factor for the subs (which are purely based off the usefulness of their stats/skills/awakenings).
Just look at the S-rank leaders - Awoken Ra (100x), Awoken Bastet(easy 36x), Vegito(best stats, very easy 25x) and Juggler(easy 49x) have been around for a while now and have well and truly proven themselves. Awoken Lakshmi (25x super tanky + option to use BaggiNeko) and Awoken Shiva (easy 20.25x very high attack team) are newer and were lower ranked a few lists back but have since been tested more extensively and have shown their worth. And Cloud is a special case based on his reliance on the "Cloud System".
The only reason that more recent monsters feature heavily is that there has been a legitimate level of power creep, they literally are more powerful than most older options making them legitimately higher ranked on a tier list.
EDIT: fixed A. Bastet's multiplier (thanks hanacker)
Also, the fact that you see lower tier teams clear the hardest content doesn't say much since they are gonna take you tons of retries.
Pre-UUVO Kirin cleared C10, I think it took Reco like 40 tries or something... that doesn't make her a C10 tier lead.
36x on a decent board, actually, but being able to go mono-green and stack TPAs more than makes up for it.
Lol, yeah, not sure how I screwed that up, I think used the combo count instead of the leader multiplier, I should feel bad about that I even recently finished building and using a WIP team for her.
No Apocalypse. Dumb.
Lol.. well okay. That's constructive, I say this because I feel that some cards just aren't shown. Which leads me to believe that they are showing and using that which is more popular now, not at all bad or not deserving, but they don't show everything that is A-S rank, of course that would take awhile. Despite this i think their S rank is very accurate.
I can understand this, I guess somethings are more overkill than others, and with the power creep hitting JP months before us, I guess that's why I feel that the difference is more miniscule than it actually is.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is that there is a larger pool of cards that can be at least A rank if you put a lot of effort, which I why I don't really enjoy any sort of list like this. I shouldn't be here! haha