JP PAD Tier Lists

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  1. Redux

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    Below are a starting roll tier list and an overall tier list separated by color. Keep in mind, The starting roll tier list generally factors in friend finding, early game, and how non-iap friendly or powerful a leader becomes if a key sub was rolled. On the other hand, the overall tier list instead is based on overall strengths with nothing restricted except practicality.


    The overall list has a tab for leader and a separate sub rating for each monster. I've found the resources to be very useful and to be taken in mind despite some minor differences in monster availability between NA and JP. Links are below Google translated for those that can't read Japanese.

    Starting Roll Tier List


    Overall Tier List


    Also, a funny tier list derived from an archived 2ch thread. I personally agree with Rodin and a savescumming Anubis as SS tier.


    I hope the tier lists are somewhat helpful when seeking help on monsters' strengths. No tier list is perfect though, so use it for reference to form your own opinions.
     
  2. Seym

    Seym Sparkle, Sparkle, Sunshine!

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    It's interesting to see that beelzebub is considerer the best dark lead! I guess it has to do with the fact that Beelzebub X Ronia is really good for challenge dungeon lv10.
    Him pairing with Sonia in a hypermax team is one of the strongest team in the game and is also really non iap friendly.
     
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    I should have gone with Ronia/Beelz for C9 instead of RoBu. I feel so dumb.
     
  4. Dando

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    They rate Ame much more fairly than americans do but they overrate Perseus and Haku and stuff like that. I absolutely would not agree with them saying Perseus/Pandora is a better starting roll than Osiris for example. Their reroll list seems worse than the american one because they must be assuming everyone will IAP a bunch, otherwise you can't justify putting Heroes in the top tier. It's hard to compare these since they clearly are using different criteria.

    Their overall tier list seems reasonable to me. The japs put a lot more weight on farming ability than we do. I think they get less carried away with overkill damage and "optimal teams" and realize that most of pad is farming and so monsters like ROdin that let you farm faster are very very valuable just for that single purpose.

    They're wrong about Hathor vs Osiris though and I'll argue about that point.

    edit: I actually like the 2ch list even though it said Kirin and LMeta are bad and it hurt my feelings by calling Lakshmi industrial waste
     
  5. Infinity1176

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    why is horus still so far up and U&Y should at least be on the best list for starters if Kali is included
     
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    Hakus pretty good shes earned her spot.
     
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    I am a firm believer that Haku is top tier.
     
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    kumomo Noob Staff Member

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    where's the Osiris vs hathor part your referring to?
     
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    kumomo Noob Staff Member

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    btw 2ch and twitter are 2 different community, 2ch at times is rather toxic in terms of favoritism (*points satan)

    but yes JP player value farming a lot more so they invest on it. watch ppl pour rolls on the up coming murakore fest where top 4 special gods voted will be 4x rates where rodin is almost going to be in it
     
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    They just put Hathor higher up the list. Only the starting roll list though because on the others they are listed as equal. Like I said, I like the 2ch list even though it is harsh truth for the most part.
     
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    oh i see it, the reason why hathor rated above Osiris is because there are more believes and evidence at the moment as of Hathor able to tackle more end game challenges, look at their reasoning for each tier. it's debatable as you said, a good hathor party is easier to form compare to Osiris but like i pointed out in another thread down the road with perfect subs and skills combo > color gods
     
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    What is this based on?

    DD Haku being rated significantly higher than DR as a leader, with all subs available, is absurd.
     
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    Tbh I am using google translate and I'm good enough at pad names to know that kirin is giraffe and stuff but I have no idea what their reasoning is from what is written. Just drawing conclusions from how I see stuff rated lol
     
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    Why? 2 extra skill boosts and 2 extra rows is a big deal
     
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    1* extra skill boost and 1* extra row

    Dunno, it's probably based off of an ease of activation standpoint.

    Easier to activate and more utility as you don't need to put subs in just to satisfy the color reqs (even though tip-tier sub's already satisfy the reqs...)

    Something like that <.>
     
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    I think he was counting both leader and friend leader.
     
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    Indeed <.>
     
  20. ta11geese3

    ta11geese3 azure rathalos

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    Calling it an "overall tier list" isn't accurate when they're separated by colors. I mean, technically it is but stratifying them like that doesn't make for a very interesting list at all.
     

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