OLD/FROZEN - [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

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  1. Nov 27, 2013 #501
    Clev

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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    Lemme ask. Doesn't having a satan on the team allow you to use his skill to push yourself back into the supaDAMAGErawr zone? Granted if you can stall long enough for him to get there... I guess kinda hard/impossible
     
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  3. Nov 27, 2013 #502
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    Satan is a good sub to use for certain dungeons, especially when farming. But you play like a Satan team. You won't have to get back into the high damage zone because you never leave it once you are there, unless you die. In other words, you can't conventionally heal with Satan... And it shouldn't take 35 or so turns to beat a dungeon.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    The only way I can see using satan with some healing is a max skilled quick/heal/cute skill and wasting another non attacker slot. Like Iris or MOG Archangel, but I doubt it's worth a valuable spot on the team.

    I would say the only reason you'd want to do this is of you have a maxed satan, healer, and DMeta, but no other good subs?
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    Nah, it's an Attacker team. Just kill everything. Satan just let's you not worry about accidentally healing out of the damage zone.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    Most attacker subs have such low rcv, I'd rather have the ability to fix a damage zone/stall a few turns than have satan and die... Does Satan become a better sub when you have hanzo/gryps?
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    Satan's other main selling point is the fact that he gives 3 dark row boosts, which is an alternative mechanic that allows team builds that don't need a Flamie or typical gravity/delay augmentation.
     
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  13. Nov 27, 2013 #507
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    Satan is a very good member, in the way it stops us from accidental healing ourselves, getting us out of the sweet zone. i seldom, close to 0, see it being used on 'descends'. its mainly used in teams for farming purposes (including legend difficulty 2 week dungeons, collab dungeons), so it doesn't matter with his skill, you'll nvr get to use it before u clear dungeons.

    if Satan is in the team, that dungeon prob don't pose much danger without RCV. descend wise, it's better to bring in utility monster instead of Satan. for example -damage taken%/delay/orb changer etc.

    Satan is a very good sub regardless of hanzo/gryps, in terms of farming. like i said before, its a matter of a Dmeta attacker team (just throw in any attacker u can get, everything dies with 16x ATK w/wo king flamie), or a successful descend-able Dmeta team (are u willing to throw in stones to get REM-only members like gryps/hanzo/yomi/DDbatman/ssnosn/kushinada?)
     
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  15. Nov 27, 2013 #508
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    It all really depends. I use satan in descends where I can't afford an accidental heal (i.e. if it will put me in a place where I can't take a hit and continue), and/or when his additional HP allows me to hit an HP breakpoint that otherwise would be impractical or impossible. but otherwise, yes satan tends to be mostly used in farming bi-weeklys/collabs, the easy to mid-range difficulty stuff.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    I'll probably kirin/umiyama/satan it, whatever makes the most sense. It does seem particularly unfriendly to dark metatron teams...but we'll see when it comes out, what is available, and where everything stands then.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    I've been toying with my Metatron for a while, but have been very sad by my lack of Hanzo :( and Gryphs Rider. So I haven't really used her yet.

    But she is luring me back in, so I'll be giving her my next set of Tamadras.

    My question (if this has been mentioned, sorry), how viable is a second Metatron on the team? I actually have two extra in my box, and I read in another thread suggesting it. I figure if you awaken her, she's got to be one of the best stat sticks in the game.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    What's the game plan for beating Zeus with Dmeta?
    Since I don't have light or dark riders I feel this seriously limits the viability of this team.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    Yes, she's a great statstick and better than a Skydragon. The awakening skills would be especially helpful.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    added my results of hera-ur to the descends section of the guide, will add here for discussion/replies, etc.

    Mythical difficulty.

    Hera-Ur: Demonic Fire Queen - Mythical



    Team


    cost me 3-4 stones. I think it's doable with 1-2, extremely hard to 0 stone with the 2 pre-emptive 10k attacks.

    monster stats: (all max lv, max awoken)
    Metatron (+297, skill lv 4: 12cd)
    Hanzo(+1 hp, +1 atk, max skill)
    Gryps(skill lv 3: 11cd)
    UFO(max skill: 8cd)
    Flamie(max skill: 12cd)
     
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  27. Nov 28, 2013 #514
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    zaisha

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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    Sorry, I don't play master/legendary difficulty, feels a waste of time to me. I'm sure other people do, maybe check hera-ur victory thread...most people there don't do mythical.

    Or maybe someone else reading this thread does master, and can answer your question directly.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    Anyone going to try for gryps/hanzo this godfest?
     
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  33. Nov 29, 2013 #517
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    Riders are, sadly, not part of their carnivals, so no buff to Gryphs drop rate. Hanzo is available though, I'm probably gonna roll for it.
     
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  35. Nov 29, 2013 #518
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    Are you gonna roll with just shadow waltz or wait for the godfest to start? I would assume wait but I've heard two different sides from my friends so far
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Dark Metatron Team Guide

    I want Jp 2.0 gods so I'll likely wait.
     
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    I see. Btw just got a hera using your meta +297! Thanks mate!
     
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