[PAD EU] Umisachi & Yamasachi Club

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  1. Yosti

    Yosti Awoken Dancing King Staff Member

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    Umisachi & Yamasachi
    Type: God
    Element: Water/Wood
    Rarity: 5 stars
    Cost: 20

    AS: Ritual of the Mountain and Sea (Fire-->Water + Heart-->Wood); 8-11 turns

    LS: Great Treasure of Mountain and Sea (ATK x5 when attacking with Water, Wood, Light & Dark orb types at the same time)


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    Gods of Hunt, Umisachi & Yamasachi
    Type: God
    Element: Water/Wood
    Rarity: 6 stars
    Cost: 25

    AS: Ritual of the Mountain and Sea (Fire-->Water + Heart-->Wood); 8-11 turns

    LS: Great Treasure of Mountain and Sea (ATK x5 when attacking with Water, Wood, Light & Dark orb types at the same time)

    Awakenings: Enhanced Water Orbs; Enhanced Wood Orbs; TPA; Resistance-Dark


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    Divine Wardens, Umisachi & Yamasachi
    Type: God/Healer
    Element: Water/Wood
    Rarity: 7 stars
    Cost: 35

    AS: Ritual of the Mountain and Sea (Fire-->Water + Heart-->Wood); 8-11 turns

    LS: Great Treasure of Mountain and Sea (ATK x5 when attacking with Water, Wood, Light & Dark orb types at the same time)

    Awakenings: Enhanced Water Orbs; Enhanced Wood Orbs; TPA; Resistance-Dark; Enhanced Water Orbs; Skill Boost; TPA

    Let's create a U&Y Club here as they seem to be quite popular on the EU server. This thread's goal is not to create an overall team guide on them, because that is already available on this forum and you can find it right here.





    UMISACHI & YAMASACHI EU USERS

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    Here are some core subs for U&Y teams. Please note again that a complete guide can be found here.

    UMISACHI & YAMASACHI SUBS

    BLUE FOCUSED SUBS


    Awoken Deity Odin
    Very rare, but one of the very best U&Y subs; Great stats and awakenings



    Azure Goddess, Valkyrie Reine
    Healer/God type with good all around stats; 5-turn Heartbreaker



    Blue Sky Fruit, Berry Dragon
    Good awakening stick with Water damage reduction, skill & row bonuses



    Chivalrous Demon Lord, Amon
    AS converts Fire to Water; Good stats



    Bold Divine General, Sun Quan / Soaring Dragon General, Sun Quan
    AS provides x2 attack for 2 turns for Healer Type. B/G has additional awakenings and a perfect color match.



    Dragon Emperor, Buster Siegfried
    High HP; Heartbreaker into Water orbs



    Drilling Shark Dragon, Megalodran
    Stats not very great, but easy to max skills Heartmaker



    Eternal Twin Stars, Idunn&Idunna
    Great AS that provides x1.5 attack for 3 turns for Water attack



    Permafrost Queen, Hera-Is
    Good stats and decent awakenings; AS needs to be skilled to be useful



    Sea God's Songstress, Siren
    Great RCV and Healer Type; Easy to max skill Heartmaker



    Serpent God Demon, Viper Orochi
    High HP; Guts LS that allows to survive a lethal blow when >40& HP


    GREEN FOCUSED SUBS


    Ancient Dragon Knight, Zeal
    Relatively easy to farm and max skill; AS converts Fire to Wood



    Champion of Olympus, Heracles
    AS provides 1.5x attack for God type for 4 (!) turns



    Devoted Miko Goddess, Kushinadahime
    Time enhance awakening and AS that reduces damage by 75%. Can also be used as a friend Helper with U&Y.



    Feline Deity of Harmony, Bastet / Awoken Bastet
    Healer type (can go along with SQ boost); AS gives mass attacks for 3 turns. Awoken Version has great awakenings and AS.



    Hunt God of the Holy Bow, Artemis
    Provides Light subtype; AS converts Fire + Heart to Wood; Good stats



    Noble Wolf King Hero, Chu Chulainn
    Heartbreaker with decent HP and attack stats



    Shining Lance Wielder, Odin
    Amazing stats and awakenings; Provides Light subtype



    Thorned Goddess, Valkyrie Elize
    Healer/God; Good all around Healer; 5-turn Heartbreaker


    LIGHT FOCUSED SUBS



    Awoken Sandalphon
    Good stats all around; AS provides damage reduction ánd Healer attack boost


    Divine Law Goddess, Valkyrie Rose
    Good Light sub with a green subtype; Healer/God type (especially useful when also using SQ for the attack bonus)



    Guardian of the Sacred City, Athena
    Great leader in her own right of course, also works as a Light/Green sub for U&Y team; Great stats; 2x TPA awakening; AS powers up L+G orbs



    Keeper of the Sacred Texts, Metatron
    Good stats all around (very high RCV); AS reduces binds by 2 turns; Good awakenings (immunity to binds)



    Love Deity, Cosmos Venus / Love Deity, Chaos Venus / Awoken Venus
    L/L Venus Healer type with AS that allows free orb movement for 10 second; L/D Venus has same AS + 55% L+D damaga reduction LS. Awoken Version has Blue subcolor, great additional awakenings and a good AS



    Radiant God of Creation, Izanagi
    AS provides x2 attack for God type for 1 turn


    DARK FOCUSED SUBS



    Arbiter of Judgement, Metatron
    Great stats all around; Uvo has Blue subcolor; AS powers Dark orbs; Good awakenings



    BAO Batman+S. Gloves Act FB
    High HP; AS provides a 2-turn delay (fits better in U&Y team than Echidna)



    Destroying Goddess of Power, Kali
    Great sub for U&Y with two time awakenings, bind resists and an orb conversion AS. Fire subcolor may not be perfect but she makes up for it.



    War Deity of the Night, Tsukuyomi / Nocturne Chanter, Tsukuyomi
    D/L version has very high attack; 2 awakenings that provide 1 extra second for matching orbs; AS that lets you move orbs freely for 10 seconds. D/D much lower attack but higher HP and RCV.


    VARIOUS OTHER GOOD SUBS


    Crimson Lotus Mistress, Echidna
    Not ideal as a double Fire monster, but 3 turn delay AS very useful




    UMISACHI & YAMASACHI TOP TEAMS

    BLUE FOCUSED U&Y FARMING & DESCEND TEAM
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    GENERALLY AWESOME U&Y TEAM
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  2. Yosti

    Yosti Awoken Dancing King Staff Member

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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    Please feel free to add good subs, strategies, and whatever!

    My first question is about Zhuge Liang. How good are both the Light and Wood versions of ZL as subs for U&Y teams? Especially the L/B version would seem quite good with a Water subtype, and an AS that powers up Water and Light orbs. Good stats all around as well AND a Healer type, so it can also go along with SQ burst. Good sub or no?
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    Once the evo comes to the EU, I'm thinking about running:

    U&Y, Sun Quan, Siren, BValk, Lillith

    However only Siren has one awakening currently so I feel like i'm going to need 15+ tamas to make it viable.
     
  4. Golden119

    Golden119 Monsieur Gung-ho, you are spoiling us.

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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    I've been practicing a bit with U&Y even though mine isn't highly developed (L70 Evo, no awakens)

    My Farming/Training version pairs with someone like Isis, and includes a Red sub (Echi). When you fail to activate you almost always get minimum 3x and won't die on silly floors. You get something like 17.5x for U&Y colours, and 20x and up if you match more.

    My current version has Dark/Light heartbreakers, Godin and Echi. You can stall well but burst damage is a bit lackluster. Ideally suited to dungeons where you can cycle through clear/heal/activate and not have to activate every single turn, or deliver utterly ridiculous damage.

    My ideal team would have time extensions, because I find that making 4 specific colour and anything else is a stretch to do continuously. When anyone suggests Row-based U&Y teams I have to laugh, as the thought of making 1 row + 3 specific combos with any degree of consistency completely ludicrous for me ;)
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    You want want to look at this thread instead

    [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    Onever is already writing a new guide on U&Y and the good subs to use, what type of team you can build, ...

    I don't think I have a strong U&Y team but I do find them fun to play.



    Golden, if you want a row based U&Y team, Yomi (or Venus) is almost a mandatory sub or you have to get very lucky or able to set up the board.
     
  6. felirx

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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    U&Y, even with a horrible nofocus team has this far cleared pretty much all the legends and 3-4 mythicals for me. Other than that, Onevers guide is coming so you should wait for it, it pretty much contains everything you need to know. The first post of the current U&Y thread is very outdated.

    That's not how row teams work. Row teams work with Yomi. Without CTW, row teams don't work. 2 time extend is not enough to make rows and activate U&Y on any given board even with U&Y actives. You can think U&Y row team as a regular 25x team with strong blue or dark focus, with one massive boss burst utilizing rows.

    Don't force yourself to run all healers. Bringing Lilith for instance is completely useless unless you are desperate for time extend or need her poison. Physical Kirin for instance gets along just fine by having 2x Kirin, Apollo and Bubblie as your only physical cards.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    Seconded :). I remember back in the day barely nobody here (EU) played UY. Most of us now frequent the UY thread over there. At some point I forwarded almost all UY users on my friend list my UY friend list :D Good to see there are so many of us now. Nevertheless in the "general" thread so to speak there are many experienced UY users. So I would my direct my questions there :D

    Still solid thread, will comment later when I have more time. At a quick glance I missed quite a few subs, but possibly its best to categorize them. Berry dragon, megalodran, siegfried, orochi for blue. Echidna is also missing, Heracles is mising, possibly Cu Chu and Bastet for green. No light metatron? :( No other valks? Lately I've been running UY / Yomi / Vamp / D/W Batman / whatever / UY. Thats three dark subs hitting for 50x damage for a turn :D with amazing awakenings. (I lack izanagi so.. limited in that sense haha :). For the same reason I include heracles sometimes, 4 turns of 1,5 damage is beastly :D 37,5x for four turns. Ohohoh.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    Anyway, I'll be Hypermaxing my U&Y after my Yomi has her missing ~60 eggs or so. Feel free to add me to the list. They're always up with the second slot changing between Sonia, D.Meta, Ra etc.
     
  9. Yosti

    Yosti Awoken Dancing King Staff Member

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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    It was just a start, so these suggestions are very welcome! As I tried to say in the first post: it is very much a work-in-progress that will be continually improved upon!

    I saw the other topic, by the way, but thought that it may be nice to have a EU topic as well in which we can find each other and help each other through difficult descends and choices, etc. Will put the link to the other topic in the OP to add even more information. :)
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    Hmm, I recently evoed my U&Y, and I'll start using him as soon as I max out my Kirin team and the U&Y ulti gets here. I have all the mats needed xept a dub-emelit^^, so add me to the list! I may be at max friends though XD.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    Amon/ orochi should be added for the blue subs section
    DD yomi is a pretty good sub because you're probably gonna have godin/valk to cover the light spot
    LL venus could be used as a light sub if you want to go healer based?
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    You can add me to the list too. The team is in the works and depending on how much more fun it is to play compared to Kirin I might put my focus on them.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    Sandalphone should be added as well, i think, or are you only doing monsters available in the EU version?
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    The problem with U&Y is that you can pretty much stick anything in the subs section that does not break activation or is not red. That's why I think it's a slightly futile effort since Onever is compiling this list already. The list becomes massive.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    Add me to the list too, I'm always using U&Y (lvl 90, +49~).
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    No effort is futile if it adding to the overall knowledge.
    I think it's a great idea that we can all learn from.
    We just have to avoid duplicating too much that's all.
    Is there 'perfect' team?
     
  17. ChronoM

    ChronoM 「天地創造」

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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    The team you can built is said to be one of the very best.

    U&Y - Bodin - I&I - Sun Quan - Yomi - U&Y

    You can replace Sun Quan with a second Bodin for more rows or U&Y for better TPA-focus on non-boss floors, but the Sun Quan Boost+Delay is usually better.
     
  18. Yosti

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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    The list has mostly been updates after all your suggestions. I still need to add a few more but they will be added soon. I was just wondering:

    - Is W/D or D/W Vampire better for U&Y teams? Or are both well suited?

    - Should I add both Zhuge Liangs as subs?

    Also, I will be adding really great teams to the openingpost to provide even more information. This way, the long list of subs hopefully will not be overwhelming because we also have good combinations of those subs in the same topic. Suggestions are very welcome! :)
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    Depends on two things:

    - does your team need extra HP or extra RCV?
    - do you run dark focussed?

    Usually the blue duke is the better choice though. U&Y teams usually have good RCV (especially after uevo) and since the leaders are both blue, you might want to focus on blue damage.
     
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    RE: [Team Building] Umisachi & Yamasachi

    I pretty much agree with this, though there is one critical sub for all U&Y teams and that seems to be Yomi, the one that don't have... yet.
     

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