[Team Building] Light Healers Guide

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  1. Zeraph

    Zeraph Active Member

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    I took a.ama/c.valk/dq/dq/venus into regular EEC and managed to reach Fl29 then died! Couldn't burst enough :( and this was like after trying for 10 times or so.
     
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    Puzzled dragon Active Member

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    Divine realm is pretty easy with dual Ama leads provided you enter the dungeon with enough hp to tank the green Zues preemptive. I wasn't paying attention and entered with 50hp too little. Oops. Haha
     
  3. sunglassesmichael

    sunglassesmichael Ruka button is OP

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    MisterDrgn You can't take the sky from me. Staff Member

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    So the new C10 doesn't look too hard: http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/mission.asp?m=1369

    No Athena, and more importantly, no Meimei. Probably an Ama/Raph team can clear it without too much trouble.

    ...but what about an Ama/Ama team?

    (NOTE: The following stats assume hypermax monsters...good thing I have those.)


    Default Team: Valk/DQ/Venus/Sandal (link)

    HP: 23,912

    Problems:
    a) With Sandalphon, Hera's pre-emptive deals 25,292. RIP.
    b) Beelzebub's pre-emptive creates a full board of poison. RIP.

    There are individual solutions to these problems, but suppose we address both at once with a high-hp board clearer: Awoken Meimei!


    New Team: Meimei/DQ/Venus/Sandal (link)

    HP: 25,492!!

    Two-Row Damage (3 off-color matches):
    8,432 * 16 (leaders) * 7 (combo multi) * 2.2 (rows) = 2.08 mil
    (with Venus orb enhance)
    2.08 mil * 1.36 (enhanced orbs) * 1.1 (orb enhance) = 3.1 mil

    Three-Row Damage (2 off-color matches):
    8,432 * 16 (leaders) * 10.5 (combo multi) * 2.8 (rows) = 3.97 mil
    (with Venus orb enhance)
    3.97 mil * 1.36 (enhanced orbs) * 1.1 (orb enhance) = 5.9 mil

    The best part is, you never need to match hearts, through an entire C10. You kill with Meimei->optional DQ for triple rows, or double rows when triple isn't necessary. If you have a bad Meimei board, you can generally just abandon it and stall for a new one. The one tricky part is Hera-Is into Beelzebub. Basically you have to horde light orbs for Hera-Is, kill with first turn of Sandal, and count on your orb-changers to carry you through Beelz, but since he's dark it shouldn't be too bad.

    EDIT: Also, have to use both Ama heals on Hera-Is for full 16x and take out Beelz with 9x...yeah this is the scary part. Good thing it's at the beginning of the dungeon.

    SECOND EDIT: Also have to take out Hera-Ur with 9x because leader actives (barely) fail to fully heal from her attack--unless you knock her below 50% on purpose, which is risky. Fortunately you only have to deal a bit over 3 mil, with all actives available.
     
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  5. LightClarity

    LightClarity Returning from Hiatus! (:

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    Are there any Raphael users that I can potentially add? Thinking of taking C9+10 for a run, but Raphael users are so rare :(
     
  6. prem

    prem ill learn to spell one day i swear

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    @win8x if he still plays i honestly dont know LOL
     
  7. sunglassesmichael

    sunglassesmichael Ruka button is OP

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    He still plays.

    I have one that's max level but it only has a few Skill Ups and no +eggs.

    There was another hyper one I knew of but that person stopped playing over a month ago.
     
  8. Haku-ku-ku

    Haku-ku-ku Well-Known Member

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    LZL 5x when full, 2.5x when not. NOW is he more than just a fast fragile farm lead?
     
  9. sunglassesmichael

    sunglassesmichael Ruka button is OP

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    I wonder if the chibi lzl will get the LS buff? lol

    I imagine not. I only have the chibi versions of the 6☆ side of the Guan Yu/Zhuge Liang pairs.
     
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    So I finally pulled an L Meta (my first!) although it's the chibi version.
    I'd like to build a light healer team as it seems pretty fun. I'm thinking of the following:
    Chibi LMeta - L kali (hyper) - L Valk - L/L DQ - Arcline - Friend lead +297

    For friend lead I could go:
    LZL - 22k hp, 4.5k rcv
    I'd have 17.5x attack boost
    Everyone has tpas, with Kali and LZL having 2 each. LZL and Arcline for the big bursts

    LMeta - More hp, less attack

    Awoken Ameratsu
    23k hp, 4.5k rcv (plus insane autoheal every turn)
    14x attack boost
    Everyone has tpas. Awoken Ama's leader skill is a little overlapping with L meta

    Thoughts?
    Are these teams viable?
     
  11. foxwaffles

    foxwaffles Weak to pretty boys

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    LKali is very suboptimal, even a dupe Valk is better (I personally use chibi valk AND god valk on the same team to generate multiple turns of moderate burst and it works really well). However given your box, she can work as a stat stick because she is very powerful. Otherwise that team is looking good! Don't forget you can pair with Venus friends for light/water heavy dungeons :) That's how you can smash through Zeus-Merc and Sandalphon Descended without much issue.
     
  12. prem

    prem ill learn to spell one day i swear

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    pretty sure hes just like a worse shivadra now. I COULD be wrong but it seems like it. like its shivadra that cares about preemptives basically. definitely not bad or anything and can be used for quick farming and wont be as fragile but still sounds like a worse shivadra

    im guessing the best team (or the team ill try at least) is chibi valk ilya dq ama. ama is just for hast cause i dont want to use 2 ilya but lkali might be better cause i forget if ilya has a skill lock res and ama gives full res if it doesnt. idk theres lots of variations but its kind of annoying and worse than shivadra still cause you dont have mass haste spam and haste is amazing lol
     
  13. MisterDrgn

    MisterDrgn You can't take the sky from me. Staff Member

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    Yeah, it's funny how LZL keeps getting enormous buffs (I mean, it's a really huge ls buff), and yet he still really struggles to be relevant.

    I was thinking the same default lineup.
     
  14. win8x

    win8x Light Dominion

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    Yeah, I have a hyper Raphael up quite a bit in team slot 1. Just private message me your ID and I'll add you or anyone else here. I'll just drop whichever friend hasn't played in a while.
     
  15. Haku-ku-ku

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    Awoken Ama heals after your attack but before monster attack, right? So not a useful pairing. Need an L.Meta or l.meta sub to be safe
     
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    Sheep also has a hypermax raphael 318,472,268. Gonna try challenge 9 with ama/ama doesnt look too bad, gotta bring a diza for round 2 tho, and final round in case i get light absorb. Anyone done it yet?
     
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    MisterDrgn You can't take the sky from me. Staff Member

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    AAma is the fourth sub, not the friend leader.
     
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    MisterDrgn You can't take the sky from me. Staff Member

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    WOOOO!!! Ama/Ama clears C10.

    In my calculations above, I forgot about the 2x from Sandal, so it was easier than predicted :happy:

    EDIT: Other C10 clears:
    http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/th...ght-healers-guide.61805/page-127#post-1280239
    http://puzzleanddragonsforum.com/th...enhanced-solo-co-op.93578/page-5#post-1377173

    Scary pre-emptiveSetting up the killing blowGG
    Team:
    * All hypermax
    * Meimei provides enough hp to survive Hera's pre-emptive with Sandal's help, plus board clear for Beelzebub, plus general synergy with DQ.

    Wave 1: Get Hera-Is down to near 50%, then try to horde light orbs. Could be really annoying if she converts them away to blue, but she didn't. Horded until I had 12, then popped Ama/Ama/Sandal and made two rows to kill.

    Wave 2: Immediately pop Meimei/DQ/Venus and go for the kill. Only at 9x, but he's dark and Sandal's 2x is still around.

    Wave 3: Can't heal to full with Ama, so grind her down to near 50% before killing with Sandal/Meimei/DQ/Venus at 9x attack.

    Wave 4: Easy wave. Stall for actives, then pop everything to kill.

    Wave 5: With Sandal up, barely survive the pre-emptive. Stall for actives, then pop everything to kill.

    Wave 6: Safe boss fight, but pretty annoying actually. They make these huge patches of light orbs, and then if you aren't careful to make a 5-combo with whatever's left, you heal them a bunch. But whatever. Make sure actives are ready, then grind them down to just below 50%. Pop actives and win :D
     
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    Just beat Dragon Rush with Ama/LValk/DQXQ/Venus/Sandalphon/Lmeta (first time! :shame:). AmaxLmeta provided enough hp to tank Zaerog's 23.5k hit, and with the innate healing provided by Ama, stalling through the light absorb was easy. Died to Fatty Dragon the first time through since I received a phone call as I was moving an orb, hence wasting a turn that would have allowed Sandalphon to pop up :spitoutdummy:. But yeah, woo! :D
     
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    I think with AAma out I'm turning off my Ronia team for tank/grinding for good. LMeta+AAma is too good, but I'm going to also start developing my Crystal Ruler Hikari and Raphael as well. I'd love any AAma having friends.

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