thanks for the advice, i realized you're right, can't compare shiva vs. blue (blonia or I&I/ryune) since the playstyles are different. i still want to make a blue team work so i'm focusing on I&I and rows. with that said, is it possible to over-emphasize rows (vs. utility)? I&I/blonia/andromeda/hermes/X? for X i have another blonia, SQ, blodin, hatsume, karin, and some others. blodin's got all the rows but AS isn't all too great. SQ only has 1 row, and the active isn't that great considering I&I and the delay isn't all too necessary with all the HP/RCV. is hatsume worthwhile? quick orb change, dark to blue. i'm trying to determine who to +297 and sink bubpy's into next. thanks!