[Team Building] Mono-Red Appreciation Thread V.2

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  1. xer 21

    xer 21 Mathematically the Worst Player on the Forums

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    even if antares isnt the best leader, as a sub hes pretty much top tier as far as i can see in many teams as R/G form goes. Fast orb changer that takes advantage of his heart awkenings AND jammers AND poison, haste, insane attack stats and fantastic awakenings. 2 SBR and 2 Skill boost and godkiller. When i pulled him i was looking at him as a lead and couldnt fathom using him as a sub, but at the time i was at a place where i wasnt in dungeons featuring poison, jammers or skill binds.

    Now, especially after his uevo, i couldnt imagine replacing him on any non heart dependant team (obviously hed be terrible on gadius or xm teams.)
     
  2. sunglassesmichael

    sunglassesmichael Ruka button is OP

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    You could still chain him with a heart maker for burst, probably.

    I intend to at least try to run June Eschamali on my Myr team with an inherited Ruka Active to follow Eschamali's for boss burst.
     
  3. xer 21

    xer 21 Mathematically the Worst Player on the Forums

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    oh like, say Antares to celar hearts and jammers, etc, then a heartmaker like Yamato or Strawberry drag to give you enough to activate? Yeah, you're right, you could do that too. The damage would be insane.

    Just today, Antares pretty much OHKed Zera off of a couple rows and some miscellaneous combos by himself (well, took them down to the resolve, but you know). 8+ mil off of the burst, lol. And im just using flat multipliers. I cant imgaine if i was using a lead like Yamato or A Cao Cao. Antares singlehandedly made it possibly for me to solo Zera with his SBR and godkiller and insane attack. Also noticed he has higher attack than Rodin now. never thought I's have a card with that much fire power. And to think i was disappointed in him when i first pulled him.
     
  4. Vixen

    Vixen Active Member

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    Give me your suggestion on a Fire Monster Tier list. I'm creating one for the front page and sprucing things up a bit while Im at it.
     
  5. xer 21

    xer 21 Mathematically the Worst Player on the Forums

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    Need separate ones for leads and subs perhaps?
     
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  6. Vixen

    Vixen Active Member

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    That's a good idea. CaoCao & Xiang Mei are the only Tier 1 meta that come to mind. Even then, they're Tier 2 when it comes to the entire game as a whole.

    L/L Myr, W/W Myr, and You Yu being at the pinnacle
    Kaede, Sumire - lesser Heart Cross being 2nd
    Xiang Mei, Cao, Cao, Lieu Bei being third
     
  7. Vixen

    Vixen Active Member

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    I'll turn one of the posts into a sub tier list and a Skill Transfer tier list as well not limited by element. I think that will be the biggest help.
     
  8. Vixen

    Vixen Active Member

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    Subs are important for their weighted stats, their awoken skills, their utility, and active skills. Sounds about right.

    Sub Tier List:
    F/W Ame no Uzume
    746.50 unbindable / bind clear / RCV
    F/D Ame no Uzume 819.83 unbindable / bind clear
    Rozuel 724.60 unbindable / heartmaker / bind clear
    Gadius 798.10 unbindable / board changer
    Norn Urd 789.43 board changer / heart maker
    SBR 1 / Enhance 3 / Skill Boost 2 / TPA 1 / Movement 1
    Yamato Takeru 840.17 fire maker / heart maker
    SBR 1 / Row boost 3 / Skill boost 3 / Move 1 / Bind Recovery 1


    Skill Transfer Fodder just needs great skills.
    Skill Transfer
    Awoken Freyr

    Active Skill: Rune Enhance, Fire & Water
    Effects: Fire & Water attribute cards ATK x2 for 2 turns. Reduces cooldown of other skills by 1 turn.
    Cool Down: 16 Turns ( 12 Turns at Lv.5 )

    Saria
    Active Skill: Shine Flare Ring
    Effects: Change all orbs to Fire, Light & Heart orbs. Reduces cooldown of other skills by 1 turn.
    Cool Down: 15 Turns ( 10 Turns at Lv.6 )

    Facet
    Active Skill: Diamond of Fortitude
    Effects: ATK x1.3 for 1 turn for every Two-Pronged Attack on the team.
    Cool Down: 19 Turns ( 14 Turns at Lv.6 )
     
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  9. Vixen

    Vixen Active Member

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    This could get very long very fast ... I need a faster way to do this. HAH
     
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    ainvar Well-Known Member

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    In what world is Kaede inferior to Blue Myr? Rofl.
     
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    Vixen Active Member

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    I thought Kaede had more similarities to Sumire but you're right. Kaede > Sumire.

    Kaede has 5 orbs combo at 5x ATK and 1.5ATK per cross so 7.5x7.5 @ 56.25x
    Kaede makes 3.5x2=7 ATK at 2 combo and 4x2 @3 8x8 = 64x and can make better use of rows.

    Meanwhile Tsubaki. ... derp.
     
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    I'm torn between developing an Awoken Shiva team or an Awoken Cao Cao team. I think somewhere in my box is a decent red team. Below are my good red cards:

    2 Cao Cao's
    2 Urd's
    2 Tsubaki's
    Freyr
    2 Beach Goemon's
    Markab
    Mochizuki Chiyome

    I'm thinking either A Shiva / A Cao Cao / A Cao Cao / Urd / Urd

    or

    A Cao Cao / A Cao Cao / Urd / Urd / Beach Goemon

    Thoughts on which direction I should go?
     
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    sadly i just hypermaxed my whole a.shiva team...only for him to become somewhat irrelevant. farms fast and clears all the older descends without a problem, but can't handle the newer stuff (like scarlet, myr, for example). probably more worth your time to focus on caocao, +'ing him and your subs for the relative lack of RCV.
     
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    That's odd. I found a thread on reddit about clearing scarlet and people with AShiva teams seem to be doing it. I know that cao cao is ultimately the best lead, but was hoping to get a scarlet farming team for it in the interim.
     
  16. xer 21

    xer 21 Mathematically the Worst Player on the Forums

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    A cao cao with tsubakis on the team for the hastes
     
  17. Vixen

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    I'll have to throw Antares somewhere in that tier list. I like his unconditional 4 element 30% reduction. The 5 connected orbs seems easy enough as well. I wish I had him.

    @Scoresman Cao Cao | Cao Cao / Tsubaki / Tsubaki / Urd . My Awoken Freyr has been used as a Skill transfer for a while now to get more burst damage. x2 Damage for Fire/Water is nice.
     
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    Holy God ... Kenshin deals damage on a new level.
     
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    I am making my first mono Red team. I just got Shiva Dragon and assuming it is my strongest leader next to Cao Cao. I have many REM units, was unable to get Set in the last Godfest as I was not fast enough to see he was being offered. What do I need to know about Mono Red and Shiva Dragon team? Also when is my next chance for Lifive to evo my Dragon?

    Need Cao Cao and Shiva Dragon Friends Please.

    Thanks in advance for the help :)
     
  20. xer 21

    xer 21 Mathematically the Worst Player on the Forums

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    Isnt lifive a tech dungeon?
     

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