Ult Ars Nova, Goetia, and Split ult Seraphis. Thoughts

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  1. Jsttu

    Jsttu Curious Cat

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    No one has posted about these evolutions, and i'm curious what people think about them. Of significance is the SBR both grimoires will get, do you think that will make them more viable subs? Their leader skill seems like a glass cannon farming lead for those without ALB or Meri.

    For reference: http://www.puzzledragonx.com/en/news.asp?nid=641
     
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    wangatang0830 Well-Known Member

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    I think Goetia/Ars Nova are great. IMO they are quite different from ALB/Meri/Yamamoto, because Goetia/Ars Nova are unconditional, like Shivadra.

    And honestly, unconditional 49x is no joke, especially considering UUevo Shivadra is only 39x. While Shivadra pack triple TPAs, the Grimoires pack tons of OEs, and has a much better AS than Shivadra.

    The most significant place I can think of where the Uevo Grimoires are gonna shine is ranking dungeons. In particular, Goetia. Ragdra's killers will make max damage score very easy to achieve, and Gronia provides an extremely strong on colour bicolour board.

    For every day farming, I think I'll prefer Ars Nova. L/R sub pool is pretty great: Ariel, Attacker Ama, Awoken Baal, Ilm, Pollux, and Saria are all very strong subs.
     
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    Noobzilla noobest of the noobs

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    Excited for Ars Nova. I have a lot of F/L. Ariel x2 for ThreePA :D
     
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    Quite some farming potential on the Grimoires. I'm actually pretty excited to run wood systems on Goetia, either with 4x Urahara or some split Osiris. Drop one of them for Ragnarok in ranking dungeons for the killers.
     
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    personally i'm going to try out a quad zuoh approach with goetia just because i havent sold any of them yet...
     
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    I'm quite interested in the giant death robot DEATHpharion. Something like DEATHpharion/Escha/Hamal/Barbara/Barbara/DEATHpharion in co-op can bring massive death & deathstruction.
     
  7. MisterDrgn

    MisterDrgn You can't take the sky from me. Staff Member

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    I mean, they differ from Shivadra somewhat, but basically they fill the same niche, right? Good for ranking dungeons and Arena 1, but mostly worse than Swipe/Button teams otherwise.
     
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    x49 unconditional (besides the type req.) is pretty great, but I already have other farming leads. Any use for them as subs?
     
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    ars nova is pretty hilarious with maeda keiji's active if a random light orb skyfall happens. currently i have ariel, saria, ilm, and maeda for the best subs. will probably fiddle with the team since its such a powerful unconditional.
     
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    xer 21 Mathematically the Worst Player on the Forums

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    Well, budget Esch/LEsch (from an awakenings standpoint), and they're really low CD orb makers AND enhancers. this allows them to fix a lot of boards.
     
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    As someone who never bought Shivadra, now I'm glad that I didn't. Indeed like you said, they fill a similar niche.
     
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    surprise u end up holding back on shivagon purchase lol
     
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    I'll try out Ass Nova bit since my Goetia subs are all undeveloped, but I am wondering if she's really on a decent level. her atk multiplier is nice but she literally has nothing else. she's lacking the RCV multiplier the other farm leads have and is the increased multiplier really that much better compared to ShivaDra, considering you have no TPAs on your leader? if you put in 1 TPA subs like Ama or Saria I don't really know if that'll give you the damage you want.
     
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    BurningMan Dropping the green Bomb

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    Really hyped for DOrph as a lead, incredible bulk high damage and perfect damage control, sub pool is limited but on point, although a lack of heart makers kinda sucks.
     
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    Goetia! She was my first pull, and I even sent away my starter dragon to make her first on my CHR list!
     
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    Unconditional is great as 2 combos is too much thinking. I'll try Goetia/Zuohs.
     
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    Unconditional x49 is a lot better than most are understanding. You can run Tifa as a sub for shields and Heart breaking on Ars and have a healthy HP pool and just do gobs of damage. I think it may actually be just a bit more than a "farming" team, its going to clear real content a lot of the time.
     
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    So basically split Seraphis is just Noctis, with a tiny subpool, in exchange for being able to match 3 orbs. Ok
     

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